possibly buying new handgun

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by bikerlbf406, Oct 27, 2011.

  1. bikerlbf406

    bikerlbf406 New Member

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    I'm looking to purchase a cheaper handgun. Don't really much much preference on caliber other than something that is cheaper then .45 ACP. The whole purpose of the firearm is for plinking and target practice and possibly home self-defense if ever needed. I will not be carrying this firearm with me unless going to or from a friends house to shoot on his rural property or at the gun range, the only way I will start to carry a firearm with me is if the laws in Illinois changes and they allow concealed carry. The only gun I have right now is a Hi-Point .45 ACP pistol, which is a great weapon, however I'm wanting something that has a little cheaper ammo and less weight. I have found 3 different firearms to consider in my price range. 1st one being a used Glock 22 full size .40 caliber. 2nd being a new Taurus TCP compact .380 caliber. 3rd being a new Rugur LCP compact .380 caliber. I have heard good things about all 3 brands and I know that the Taurus and Rugur both are the lighting and smallest of the 3. Research shows me the .380 auto ammo is just a dollar or two cheaper then the .40 S&W ammo. I can probably pick up the Glock for $350 which research shows me is a fair price and is at an Illinois gun dealer, while the other 2 guns are $300-$310 and are a Missouri dealer, so I would have to get it transferred to an Illinois dealer and pay their transfer fee. Which gun should I go for? Also keep in mind that I do weigh 350 pounds so I have bigger hands, and since I haven't ever held a compact gun, I'm not sure how comfortable one would be in my big hands.
     
  2. Alpha1Victor

    Alpha1Victor New Member

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    I would try a glock 19. Those .380's wont feel right in a larger hand. The glock 22 is a great pistol, but ammo isnt much cheaper than the .45 or much less weight.

    Signing out, Alpha1victor.
     

  3. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    Agreed on the 9mm being cheaper enough to really notice the difference. However, if this is just to be a plinker, i would look for a good used .38/.357 revolver. Why plink with a combat handgun or a purse gun? My Ruger GP100 is almost certainly my favorite plinker and would be a fine nightstand gun. Of course, with its 6" barrel, it wouldn't be easy to conceal without a jacket and shoulder holster. I paid $400 for one, new with a minor blemish. You could pay even less for a .38 only revolver, if you don't mind picking up a used one. (there is advice on used revolver purchases stickied on the forum)

    4" new at Bud's, $486 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_49_76/products_id/70255 I think you could find one for less, especially used.
     
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  4. USMC_Richey

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    I think Taurus isn't that great of a company and I don't like ruger (but my uncle loves). So I'm of no help in that category. But maybe I can persuade you on the ammunition sizes.

    If you want a .40, your right about the ammo being a little cheaper. Plus it will be easier to shoot. It's a great round and the whole reason why it was invented was to have the advantages of both 9mm and .45 put together. Most all police departments have this as their standard issue round.

    But honestly I wouldn't even bother with a .380. That's a chicks round (no offense :D). I would go with a 9mm if you want one of the smaller sizes. It takes all the benefits of it's "little brother" and then injects itself with steroids. lol

    9 is super easy to shoot (most of the time), pretty cheap, and would work very well as a self defense handgun if need be. You can get 500 rounds of good metal in 9 mill for $100 and that's in Cali! .380 is the step up for kids from a .22, don't even waste your time.

    Remember this though when you finally decide on a piece to pack heat: when it comes to guns, most of the time, you get what you pay for.
     
  5. bikerlbf406

    bikerlbf406 New Member

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    I have shot a .38 revolver before and honestly it was alright but didn't really like it that much. For some reason I get more thrill out of a semi-auto then I do a revolver. I'd have no problem getting a Glock 19 as it would be the cheapest probably for ammo, but I don't want to spend $500 on a hangun and I have checked every locally and the best price I found on a used Glock was that G22.
     
  6. UrbanNinja

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    If you're looking for a cheap pistol for plinking only.and You already have a hi-point .45 and happy with it... just pick up a hi-point 9mm or .380. You cant go wrong.
     
  7. USMC_Richey

    USMC_Richey New Member

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    Yeah they're not bad, except for the fact that hi-point guns are already made new with parts they found in a dumpster.

    Half of these people now hate me lol
     
  8. bikerlbf406

    bikerlbf406 New Member

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    The Hi-Point is definitely the cheapest, however even their compact 9mm is only 1/2" smaller then the glock and weighs 6+ ounces more then the glock 22 that I'm looking at. I've held my dad's Hi-point 9mm before he sold it and even it is still quite large, clunky and HEAVY. One of the reasons I want something else is the fact that Hi-Point weighs 3+ pounds when loaded and I want something lighter.
     
  9. Alpha1Victor

    Alpha1Victor New Member

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    If you want the glock 22, then get it. If it the price and caliber you want then go for it. It sounds like you already made the decision before you asked for our input.

    Signing out, Alpha1victor.
     
  10. bikerlbf406

    bikerlbf406 New Member

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    Actually, I haven't made up my mind yet as I am still considering the Rugur and Taurus. However there has been a valid point brought up and that is how it will feel in my hands being that I have larger hands. I also had the thought of waiting around until December for the gun show to come around and seeing what they have there and maybe picking something up. Think I'm going to call to find out some more info tomorrow on that Glock 22, make a trip to the gun store to possibly look at it and maybe even look over a new glock 27 or glock 30 while I'm there and then decide if i want to go ahead and purchase something cheaper like the Glock 22 or if I want to save up my money til the gun show and maybe pick me up a new glock. Got some serious thinking to do though.
     
  11. Robdeez83

    Robdeez83 New Member

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    Why would you want to step down to a .380 from a .45 simply because of the size issue and round cost. If youre looking into taurus or ruger, I understand the hard the decision and I love both companies myself. I jave to ask though, have you heard of the taurus pt 145 millenium pro? Its a great 45 cal in a way smaller package but still carries 10 on the mag...and at only 350 (in phoenix) its pretty hard to beat, you should do yourself a favor and check it out!
     
  12. nccinstaller

    nccinstaller New Member

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    I would personally look into a 9mm and you can find quite a few new for the 300 range. Smith and wesson sigma series 9, ruger p95, just a couple that come to mind you may want to check out
     
  13. Poink88

    Poink88 New Member

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    Check Sig SP2022 in 9mm...a lot of gun for the money IMHO.

    BTW, 9mm ammo is also the cheapest (defensive) caliber I know of.
     
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  14. JTJ

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    380 ammo costs as much as the 45 ammo. 9mm luger/paraballum is the cheapest to shoot in center fire. A Ruger SR9 or SR9c is about $100 cheaper than a Glock. The Kel-tecs are cheaper yet. The tiny 380 pistols(mouse guns) are not fun to shoot. If you still want a 380, look at Bersa but a Kel-tec PF9 is about the same size, costs about the same and uses cheaper ammo.
     
  15. utf59

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    I haven't shot the Taurus, but I have shot the LCP. Tiny guns are tiny to make them easy to carry, not because it makes them fun to shoot. The triggers usually aren't the best, the sights are a bit difficult to use, they're hard to grip with big hands, and the recoil is a bit high considering how small a round they shoot. If you're looking for fun, you will not have found it.

    From your description of the gun's intended use, I would say look for a 9mm. Where I buy ammo, .45, .40 and .380 all run $30 or a bit more for a 100-round box of FMJ target (cheap) ammo. The same size box of 9mm goes for a little over $20.

    You said you could get a 9mm Glock for $500 and the used .40 for $350? If you shoot a hundred rounds a month, it'll take about a year to make up the cost difference. If you shoot two hundred a month, it'll only take six months. If you shoot a lot, you'll have more than made up for the initial difference in cost very quickly.

    If the three you listed are your only options, I'd recommend the Glock. The bigger gun will be more fun to shoot, it'll be about as cheap to shoot as the others, and the stronger round and higher capacity will be more useful for home defense.
     
  16. USMC_Richey

    USMC_Richey New Member

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    So basically if you get a .380, everyone here will be disappointed. :D
     
  17. Firearms4ever

    Firearms4ever New Member

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    I recommend you go to some local shops and check out their inventory. Since you're wanting a cheaper caliber to shoot I highly recommend the 9mm. The .380 is actually more expensive than the 9mm and where I live it's as expensive as the .45ACP. Look for something that feels good to you and fits the bill. One thing I don't recommend is going with Taurus. Their firearms are a hit or miss generally and I just don't see the point on taking that gamble. I'm partial to Ruger and Springfield so I obviously recommend the Ruger SR9c or the XDm 9mm. Again, look for what feels the best to you and fits the bill.
     
  18. sweeper22

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    Given your criteria, I can't imagine why you'd even consider a 380acp.

    380acp is:
    Expensive
    Generally intended for ultra-compact carry guns
    Often difficult to be accurate with, given the gun size
    Lacking in power

    It's a caliber that's almost exclusively chosen because either the shooter can't handle a larger caliber or because they want a super-compact carry option. FWIW, given your information I'd say that even a 9mm Makarov (9x18) could be a more more practical choice than a 380.

    But 9mm Luger sounds like the ideal choice. You can find some really outstanding 9mms for $250-500. A 357/38 or 40sw could be a decent option, but won't save you much in ammo cost. And if you're somehow enamored with a 380acp, it sounds to me like a Bersa Thunder might be the most practical choice for you.
     
  19. gutz47

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    I totally agree! A buddy has one and its tits! I just got a sig p6 for roughly 350. If you can find one of those, I say its your best choice. A sig for 350? Psshhhtt who wouldn't?
     
  20. bikerlbf406

    bikerlbf406 New Member

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    Well I went to the only gun shop I know of that will actually let me look and hold a gun right now since I'm still waiting on my FOID card. Its the same dealer that had the used Glock 22, and after looking looking at all of their guns and prices, and actually holding about 5 different kinds, I decided to go ahead and go for the used Glock 22 Gen 3 they had in stock. Price before tax is just under $400 but that's with a double mag holder, a single mag holder and 2 - 15 round mags. Although I know the ammo isn't as cheap as the 9mm, I couldn't justify the higher cost of a 9mm since I only shoot once or twice a month and will probably only go through 1 box of 50 each time I shoot. It is definitely a lot lighter then the Hi-Point though and is more about the weight I was looking for. I looked at a sub-compact and a compact pistol and neither felt right holding them in my large hand and the Glock 22 felt perfect in my hands. I just hope I'm just as happy shooting it. My father used his FOID to go ahead and put it in his name like we did with the Hi-Point and I'll be picking it up Tuesday. There's a mandatory 72 hour hold that IL requires, so that would be Sun, and they aren't open again until Monday, so I could get it then, but I won't have the cash to pay for it until Tuesday so that's when we agreed to go back and pay for it and pick it up.