Possible open carry for Florida-Vote Scott

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by michigan0626, Oct 20, 2010.

  1. michigan0626

    michigan0626 New Member

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    Here is an email from the founder of Florida Open Carry. Im definetely voting for Rick Scott.

     
  2. 556plinker

    556plinker New Member

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    I like the freedom aspect of open carry but I cannot for the life of me figure out why anyone would want to open carry. The heretofore unknown bad guy will shoot you first in the convenience/liquor store to eliminate the potential threat. I dont care if open carry makes people feel uncomfortable or angers some, I dont reallly care but from a tactical situation its just nuts. I think this open carry must originate from little guy syndrome or small penis size. Conceal Carry yes.....open carry, I don't see the value in being a sitting duck.
     

  3. michigan0626

    michigan0626 New Member

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    Pros and cons to both sides of the coin. But, Florida is one of only 7 states with a ban on open carry. Unconstitutional in my eyes. If you dont like open carry, fine. But at least you agree that it should be available. "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED".

    Back in the old days, if you concealed your weapon you were considered slimey and were probably a criminal. Alaska, Vermont, and Arizona have the greatest gun laws on the books. They have no gun laws. You can buy a gun one day and decide to conceal carry with no permit. Then the next day you can decide to carry openly, with no permit. I believe Constitutional Carry should be adopted by all 50 states.

    As far a why; in Alaska you open carry because its cold. If you got a thick jacket on and you need to engage a bear I would asume its best to open carry. In Arizona you open carry because it hot. I like to wear just a T-shirt in the summer, easier to print than if you wear a jacket.

    Plus it helps desensitizes the liberals.
     
  4. Yunus

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    I have a relative that works for a natural gas company. He open carries because he mainly works in rural wooded areas of West Virginia, alone, along property lines that are sometimes disputed. He mainly carries in case of an animal attack but also as a deterrent to some people.
     
  5. 556plinker

    556plinker New Member

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    you guys are right

    Points well made...I stand corrected:)
     
  6. FreedomFighter69

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    Texas had open carry for years and until the influx of illeagle immigrants who are criminals, they had a relitively low crime rate. Arizona had it years ago too and then it was banned but is now coming back. Both forms of carry have their ups and downs. You have to pick the downs that you would be willing to live with. Open carry= quicker draw, visual deterrent, more comfort, allows you to carry a bigger gun/caliber, allows you to wear whatever clothing you want. The downside of Open carry is you may encounter that rare person who decides to challenge you because they see your armed, someone can snatch your gun easier {should use a retention holster if you do}, some peolple will give you dirty looks, the element of suprise is gone, some law officers in certain states that do not know the law to the extent about open carry will harass you about it, and tell you you can't do it !
    Concealed Carry= Element of suprise, Police won't harass you, people don't know you have it and wont give you dirty looks or question you, harder for someone to snatch your gun. The downside of Concealed Carry-
    more uncomfortable {especially in-the-pants holsters}, need to wear baggy clothes, pants especially, limits you to a certain size and in some cases caliber, slower draw and access, can force you to buy a more expensive carry rig {shoulder Rig }, can be a hassle in the summertime when it's hot because you have to wear exra clothing to conceal it. That probably sums it up. If I missed anything feel free to add to either one ?
     
  7. SK2344

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    As a long time Florida resident I am against this idea of Open Carry.
    As much as I would like to be transported back to the old western era of the late 1800's and be able to ride my horse from town to town with my Colt on my hip, I just do not see the need for open carry in this day and age. However I do think and believe if a law abiding citizen is able to buy a gun, then they should be able to carry concealed without having to purchase a permit. I just don't see why someone has the need to carry a gun so everyone can see the gun. I really feel this is just plain silly and it will create more problems for us gun owners. I have heard all the arguments for and against but as a gun lover and a person who carried one on duty for 12 years, I just can't convince myself that this is a good idea. I think we should put all our efforts into the fight to Keep and Bear Arms instead of pushing the issue for open carry. Does one really have the need to show everyone that he has a gun, well I don't think so. //END//:rolleyes:
     
  8. michigan0626

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    That sounds half anti-gun, straddling the fence. Why cant you be for concealed carry laws and open carry laws, but choose to only carry concealed. And then make it YOUR choice to conceal, and not INFRINGE on somebody elses right(hopefully Florida gets it back) and choice to open carry.
     
  9. mpd8488

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    There are any number of reasons to open carry that are just as valid as the reasons to chose to conceal. If you support constitutional carry why do you care whether somebody has their jacket over the gun rather than behind it? What difference does it make?

    What if I was to suggest that you should be able to carry a 9mm handgun without restrictions, but I just don't see the need for a .45? It's no different. Why would you want to limit others' choices simply because your personal preferences are different?

    Just as our choice of handguns and holsters is purely personal, so too should the choice of whether to carry concealed or open.

    Also, this is the only known case of an open carrier being disarmed by a criminal (besides police officers acting outside of the law): Man Legally Carrying Gun Robbed at Gunpoint | Today's TMJ4 - Milwaukee, Wisconsin News, Weather, Sports, WTMJ | Local News
     
  10. mpd8488

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    I remember reading a case in which a couple of would be robbers walked into a store to rob it, but left after seeing an open carrier. The police arrested them in the parking lot a little while later after noticing some suspicious activity. I'll see if I can't find a source on that story

    There aren't any cases of a bad guy just opening fire on an open carrier. If it is such a bad thing tactically, why don't cops conceal? Do you really think that the badge or the uniform is what deters violent criminals? Or do you think that the gun on the hip does it?

    I only point that out to say that you may get shot first, but you may also deter criminals. Nobody but the criminal has any way of knowing, but I think it's typically pretty accepted that criminals are generally cowards that engage in crimes of opportunity. They go for easy targets. Why would a criminal rob a 7-11 with an OCer in it when he can go up the street rob that one with no visible carriers? Until somebody does a study on the subject we have no idea which is more likely from a statistical standpoint.

    I'm not going to argue that one is better than the other (I carry concealed and open depending on a number of factors), but arguing against it or saying that OCers are compensating for small penises just plays right into the anti's hands.
     
  11. SecPro

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    It was a A waffle joint or something like that and I forgot which state. I'm on the fence. It's a 50/50 battle but don't see why you can't have the option......
     
  12. zeenman1

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    Good Point!
     
  13. hardrock

    hardrock New Member

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    I agree totally.In my state an open carry law was vetoed by our dumcrat governer for those with concealed carry licenses only.We now have a republican female governer and open carry for ccl's will become law.

    I will never open carry and be that 'sitting duck' 556plinker refered to.