possibility of hunting with an AK

Discussion in 'AK & SKS Discussion' started by endobro, Mar 26, 2014.

  1. endobro

    endobro New Member

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    Im getting invited to go hunting for deer possibly. The only option I have for a long gun is an AK as I cant justify buying a rifle If I don't like hunting.

    So the AK is my dads that he got about 15 or 20 years ago. Has a thumb hole stock, long barrel, and a scope.

    So here are some questions

    Can I use an AK for hunting deer and or what other animals can I use it to hunt

    Can I buy better rounds for it to hunt with.

    What kind of accuracy should a rifle in this configuration have.

    Thanks in advance
     
  2. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    Sure its an ak and not a psl??

    Doest it look like this??

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  3. KG7IL

    KG7IL Active Member

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    While Jon may be more accurate, I'll include most any AK variant, derivative as an AK.

    What matters is what your State Regulations allow or require.
    Usually you will find something to the effect of .xx caliber or larger, with a case, yyy or longer.

    You can answer that question by reviewing your regulations.
    Also keep an eye open for any in-field magazine capacity limitations. Some states may limit you to a mag block for 3 or 5 rounds.
    If you are shooting non-game you may have a different set of regulation. e.g. Deer might require more than a .223, coyote or hog may not.
     
  4. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    In the '90s many AK clones had thumbhole stocks. KG7IL has it right as far as checking your local hunting regulations for caliber and capacity restrictions.

    If it is indeed an AK clone and chambered in 7.62x39mm, then it would fall into a power range that is a little lower than a .30-30. So, most game that you could hunt with a .30-30 is in the capabilities of an AK. Folks in the South East, hunt deer, hogs and coyotes with rifles chambered in the 7.62x39 round. But down there the deer are small and the ranges are usually short. Accuracy of AKs can vary pretty widely, so you would have to try the gun you are considering, with a few different brands of ammo and see if it gives the level of accuracy that you would need for whatever you intend to hunt. A rule of thumb is to keep all of your rounds on a pie plate at increasing ranges. Once you can no longer keep your hits on the plate, you have exceeded the required accuracy for hunting deer sized game with that rifle and ammo combination.
     
  5. endobro

    endobro New Member

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    Thanks guys. The above picture is what it looks like be maybe not quite that fancy. I know in nebraska we have a 5 round limit which my dad has several 5 round mags so im covered on that. I will check the other regs too.

    Could you guys give me the names of some companies that make 7.62 rounds. Also do they have different bullet weights and loads.
     
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  6. SRK97

    SRK97 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Any soft point bullet (preferably made in USA) I think they all way around 123 grains.

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  7. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    The rifle pictured above isn't exactly an AK, it is a Romanian variant know as a PSL. It is chambered in 7.62x54R, which is closer in power to a .308 Winchester or a .30-06. It was an upsized rifle to take the larger cartridges, and had a receiver mounted side rail for optics, because its purpose was to be used as a sharpshooter's rifle, or designated marksman rifle, where extended reach and precision may be required. So, first off you will need to be absolutely sure of what rifle you have, so that you can get the right ammo.

    There were Chinese AK variants that were imported in the 80s and 90s that had long barrels and thumbhole stocks. The NHM-90 was one of those variants and was basically a squad gun version of the AK that still was chambered for the 7.62x39 round and took standard or extended AK 47 magazines. To my recollection they did not have any receiver side rails for mounting optics like the PSL did.
     
  8. chloeshooter

    chloeshooter New Member

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    Well let's assume for a minute it's an AK - 7.62 x 39mm. This can be checked easy enough - should be stamped somewhere on receiver

    Good hunting round? Yes a soft tipped variant but it will have it's limitations. I'd be limiting myself to 100 yards or less as most AK's don't provide hunting-type accuracy. How good a shot are you? Can you group 3 shots in an area the size of a 6" pie plate from 100? That would be my deciding factor for any long gun including a shotgun with slugs. That, and what the typical cold-shot accuracy is....
     
  9. endobro

    endobro New Member

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    It is definitely the 7.62 round
     
  10. John_Deer

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    I have had my share of experience with an SKS. I was less than pleased with the performance of the 7.62x39. Energy wise there is not a lot of difference between a 7.62x39 and a 5.56x45. both are pretty anemic as a hunting cartridge. The 7.62x39 lacks the velocity to create enough hydrostatic shock to reliably put a deer down. I don't know how many deer I have shot through the shoulder blades multiple times that ran off. If I had made the same shot with any popular hunting a cartridge the deer would have been running on it's chin with a single shot.

    If you choose to hunt with a 7.62x39 I would limit my shots to the head and neck unless you all have tracking dogs to find the deer. The 7.62x39 leaves no blood trail for you to follow, even with soft point bullets.
     
  11. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    you need to know whether its 7.62x54r or 7.62x39 two entirely different things. since its your dad's rifle ask him which it uses. as said above it should be stamped ont he reciever.
     
  12. jjfuller1

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    http://outdoornebraska.ne.gov/hunting/Guides_Regs.asp

    all the hunting regs are listed here. read away. first, find out if there are caliber limits along with mag capacity.then find out if its 7.62x39, or 7.62x54r. for now lets assume its the smaller 7.62x39. as said take it out and find out how far you can accurately hit a pie plate. if its 50, 75 or 100 yards.. at a max I would say no longer than 100 yards. but if its the 7.62x54r you may be able to reach a little farther reliably. another idea. if you getting invited to go hunting perhaps you could ask if they have a suitable rifle that you could use. one in a better hunting caliber....

    and don't aim for the head please.. especially that you are a new hunter, keep your shots only in the heart/lung area. no need to risk taking a shot at any other small, hard to hit places. just put it in the boiler plant.

    honestly I just can't see why you would suggest a person using a rifle hes unfamiliar with, is not known for accuacy, and also appears hes new to hunting to take such difficult, and sometimes unethical shots.. shame on you..