Just looking for some thoughts and not trying to start a caliber war. Without getting into platform nonsense (so thus, I will not talk about particular firearms that I am currently shooting or considering) I am seriously considering ditching the .45 ACP. I've always had a healthy respect for the caliber and I enjoy shooting it. I think a lot of issues people have with its recoil is overblown. I taught my oldest son to shoot with a .45 ACP handgun when he was 13. I think it's a manageable and respectable caliber. Problem is, I'm having issues finding range ammo these days. Don't say anything about reloading. For a variety of reasons that is not an option. Cheap decent ammo is hard to come by and has been for awhile. Even in the panic days my odds of finding 9mm were about the same. 9mm has always been cheaper and it's getting hard to ignore the evidence that SD rounds are fairly close in performance to .45. Combine that with the cost and the fact that your average 9mm has a 3rd to double the capacity of most .45's and I'm really wondering if it's worth it anymore. Availability, cost, and negligible performance between self defense rounds are what I'm considering. A lot of it is cost though. My ideal spend point for 9mm is about $15 for a box of 50. I can find it cheaper than that all day long, but within a dollar of that is easy. For .45 I don't blink at $20 for a box of 50, and I'd been firing Tula and Monarch for $15 to $17 a box. Well, the cheap crap has disappeared and even the lower end stuff has vanished. I'm having a hard time justifying $23 to $27 a box. I tend to pick up a few rounds of this or that every week and am working on rebuilding my modest stockpile. I seriously considered dropping $100 today for 250 rds. but I am also trying to save up for some additional firearms and not blow my cash on large ammo purchases. Might be worth it, but eventually I'll be in this boat again. I'm just not sure .45 is worth the cost anymore.