Police return rare WWII weapon in gun buyback

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by Bigcountry02, Dec 9, 2012.

  1. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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  2. GaryGlock

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    Why would you turn a Sturmgewer in?!?! Wow I hope they do something appropriate with that. I would NEVER give one of those up
     
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  3. Trez

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    Is it registered??? I thought by law anything that wasnt has to be destroyed per ATF?? I mean isnt that why there are so many destroyed and demilled guns? I see cut up thompson's and others all the time, Being "historic" doesnt save them... Why did this one get past that? :confused:
     
  4. winds-of-change

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    The woman didn't know what she had. I was afraid the officers would keep the gun since the woman turned it over. They did give the rifle back to her to allow her to sell it. If I were her, I would definitely keep that rifle in the family.
     
  5. ScottA

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    Thank God there was an officer there who knew what he was looking at, and great to see the police do the right thing with it.

    Donate it if you don't care about the money, or call Rock Island Auction.
     
  6. alsaqr

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    i hope the cops saw the registration papers for that gun, otherwise they are idiots. That is an NFA weapon. Unless the lady has federal registration papers she could be in trouble. The only legal disposition for an unregistered NFA weapon is destruction.

    No doubt the gun came to the US in the possession of someone related to the lady. i hope the lady has registration papers for that gun: If not a very valuable piece of history will be destroyed by the BATFE. :mad:


    http://www.atf.gov/firearms/nfa/

    http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/1999/09/090599-openletter-nfa-estate-transfers.html
     
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  7. JonM

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    crabtree is an idiot. no gun belongs in a shredder!! not even a jennings or lorcin!! all those guns should be returned to their rightful owners!!
     
  8. GaryGlock

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    I didn't watch it all the way, that's cool they gave it back. That would be a family heirlume for sure. Wow what a find.
     
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  9. Chainfire

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    At work a few years ago, one of the carpenters on my job, approached me about buying a Thompson, that had been in his father in laws attic when he died. Gun, accessories and loaded magazines. The gun was an apparent WWII bringback. He wanted $500.00 for the thing. As much as it broke my heart, I wouldn't go within 100 feet of the gun. I contacted a friend of mine that is a major machine gun dealer, his advice to the guy was to strip the reciever for parts, and throw the receiver in the deepest hole in the ocean he could find, and to do it right now, not tomorrow.
     
  10. JonM

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    if you do find a historic unregistered full auto you can donate it to a museum without getting in trouble. the batf does have a proccess to do that legally.
     
  11. Tackleberry1

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    They did not specify amount but it's certain that she handed it over for a $50 to $75 gift card. Sorta prooves she has no knowledge of firearms and even less appreciation for her fathers service.

    Hopefully a well heeled collector will see ^^THIS^^ article and give that fine piece of history a propper home... Like the National Firearms Meusum.

    Tack
     
  12. FullautoUSA

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    Thank God the atf didn't get it, those terrorists would shred it then piss on it
     
  13. FullautoUSA

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    Some should, the ones protecting those who want to take ours! They should take away the guns of anyone who does not believe in gun ownership and it's funny how many of the politicians who would decapitate you for owning a gun own guns themselves
     
  14. Tackleberry1

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    I might be able to support these buy backs if ALL guns turned in were investigated to see if they were stolen...and stolen guns returned to there owners.

    I'm under the impression that it's a "no questions" asked thing and everything is either destroyed or winds up in a cops collection.

    Does anyone know if if any effort is made to identify stolen property and return it to it's rightful owner?

    Would in not be criminal to purchase products you suspect may be stolen, regardless of what you intend to do with them?

    Tack
     
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    I could not see the attached video. I am assuming based on what has been written here that the weapons is a Sturmgewehr (STG-44). Is there not a way to convert the weapon into Semi-Auto and allow the owner to keep it without violating the law?
     
  16. m72law

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    StG44!!!..I hope it doesnt wind up (recycled) :(

    Bill to allow registration of war-trophy weapons
    Vets' email | 5/11/05

    Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:50:00 AM by pabianice

    Veterans of World War II, the Korean War and the Vietnam War could legally register firearms brought home as war trophies under a bill introduced May 4 by Rep. Jim Gibbons, R-Nev.

    The bill, HR 2088, allows veterans and their heirs to register firearms that troops were allowed to bring home under U.S. military policy in effect at the time. It would not change existing policy for combat veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan who are barred from bringing back any captured weapons.

    Called the Veterans’ Heritage Firearms Act, Gibbon’s bill applies to firearms brought back to the United States between June 26, 1934 and October 31, 1968. The veterans who brought back the firearms or their lawful heirs would have 90 days to register the guns without fear of prosecution.

    Similar amnesty was approved by Congress in 1968 as new and tougher firearms rules took effect, but Gibbons said many veterans never knew they needed to register their weapons. Now, because they didn’t follow the 1968 procedures, those who brought a firearm home in full compliance with military rules and federal law face confiscation of the weapon and possible criminal charges if they are found to own an unregistered firearm, Gibbons said in a statement.

    “Unfortunately, when our servicemen returned home from battle, many did not learn about the registration regulations until the short registration period had passed and it was too late,” Gibbons said.

    Veterans “are currently in jeopardy of being unjustly convicted of serious felonies because they possess war relic firearms that they were authorized to bring home,” he said.

    Gibbons’ bill contains a second provision under which any firearms confiscated from veterans would not be destroyed, but rather would be made available to museums to add to their permanent collections.
     
  17. kfox75

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    Those guns do not belong in a shredder either. They should get cofiscated, and giver to new pro 2A owners.

    Can't say yes or no in other areas, but my grandfather has 2 of his pistols turn up after they were stolen. The Buffalo PD ran checks on all pistols turned in (everyone who owns a handgun must have a pistol permit which is on file in Albany and at your county courthouse), and as a result, his carry piece and one of his target revolers were returned. I think that was probably due in part to his being a retired NY State Trooper, but who knows. Either way, he atleast got his Python and his .22 Colt that was built on a .38 frame. And he wonders why my safes are bolted into the floor joists and the wall.
     
  18. headhunter

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    One and all we should stop for a moment and take note of the ethics of the department and the officers involved in doing what was right.
     
  19. ArrizX

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    What scares me more is this gun buy back program :eek:
     
  20. ArrizX

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    http://www.connecticutchildrens.org/gunbuyback


    Programs like this is the start of disarming the public. scary stuff!!