Pointing or Aiming

Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by amoroque, Dec 13, 2010.

  1. I point my shotgun

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  2. I aim my shotgun

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  3. I point my shotgun, but he is right

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  4. I aim my shotgun, but you're right

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  1. amoroque

    amoroque New Member

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    One of my best buddies and I are in the middle of a debate regarding pointing a shotgun vs. aiming a shotgun. To me "pointing" the shotgun is the way to go, he clearly thinks that "aiming" is the right way.

    To me pointing the shotgun is keeping your face on the stock, but, having your eye a bit above the rib so that you are focusing on the target and almost having to "triangulate" the shot.........much like pointing at a clock on the wall.

    He insists that the best way to shoot a shotgun is by keeping your eye down at the level of the rib, and looking along the rib, almost aiming the shotgun like a rifle.

    Thoughts please?
     
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  2. Virginian

    Virginian Active Member

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    E) None of the above. I keep my head down, so I see hardly any rib at all, and point the gun.
     

  3. amoroque

    amoroque New Member

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    Thank you for your input!
     
  4. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills New Member

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    It really depends on whether I have slugs loaded or buckshot
     
  5. amoroque

    amoroque New Member

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    Thanks Bill. I should of clarified that. I was just talking about birdshot.
     
  6. Ronbo

    Ronbo New Member

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    Tough to answer with the choices listed. My gun fits me so that when shouldered it is in the same place every time, which puts my eye looking right down the barrel at the front sight, sort of like my eye is the rear sight since it lands right in the same place every time....(lets face it, plus or minus some fractions of an inch, realistically and within the time constraints of shouldering and firing at a flying target)...which essentially makes pointing the same as aiming, enough for birdshot. Does that make sense? lol. both i guess.

    FWIW, this "sight picture" puts a slug about an inch and a half low and to the left of target at 30 yards. Knowing this piece of information and the correct adjustment makes my gun a pretty decent slug gun at closer ranges.
     
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  7. DarinCraft

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    I was taught at a trap shooters class and the first lesson was, "Point your finger at the number on the back of that trap house........Now without moving your hand bring you head down to your finger and look at what your finger is pointing at......It's pointing at dead center of that number isn't it?....Now trust your finger. If you are doing everything right and your index finger is not on the trigger and down the side of the receiver like it should be, your finger will point at the clay....Now point your shotgun at the clay."

    Obviously I'm paraphrasing, I can't remember exactly what he said, but that was the point of his opener to his training session. I remember him saying over an over "You point a shotgun."

    This precludes the defensive/slug loads. He was speaking of birdshot. Anyway this was how I was taught and how I have shot trap and sporting clays for years. If you were wondering I am pretty consistent with 24's in trap and 68's in SC.
     
  8. doctherock

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    I point, however the exception to this is skeet shooting. I feel its more of an aim with skeet.
     
  9. DrumJunkie

    DrumJunkie New Member

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    My 835 has two pin sights on it..so aiming is pretty much second nature. My 870 does not..so I more or less point it.
     
  10. freefall

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    You point a shotgun when wingshooting. You aim it when using it where a rifle would also be a logical choice for the job, i.e. deer hunting, anti-personnel, etc.
     
  11. powg

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    shotgunning..101

    point..pull the trigger ......and keep swingin'....if it aint down....you stopped swingin...shot behind bird,duck ,clay......or that damn dog that got in your trash..lol
     
  12. amoroque

    amoroque New Member

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    This is exactly what I was trying to say, I apologize for this thread being a little confusing. I dont really know about terminology, but, when I say triangulate a shot, I think that a person pointing at a number on a trap house is triangulating.......Thank you for the great explanation.
     
  13. Davyboy

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    It sounds to me more like a mounting problem. Have you seen the browning red dot tunnel front site. If you have not got the shottie mounted correctly you will not see the red dot. Most of the 2012 Olympic teams are using it.
     
  14. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    this begs the question to ask is does chenney point or aim when shooting faces??

    an aimed shot is more accurate than just randomly pointing a weapon. the more you shoot aiming the more natural it becomes. this often leads to people not thinking about aiming when they have a ton of experience and proclaim they are natural point shooters. personally i do not beleive true point shooting really exists. subconciously a person will use SOMETHING as a point of reference to aim.

    test your buddy and youself. put on some blinder type device where you cant see the shotgun or your hands and arms. i bet your hit rate plummets down to nearly nothing.
     
  15. amoroque

    amoroque New Member

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    I would like to check it out. its not that either one of us are bad shots.......its more like a friendly debate whether pointing or aiming is the preferred method. I dont know if you have a friend that you just like to argue with?? Its just what we do, friendly bantering.
     
  16. NPD5946TSW

    NPD5946TSW New Member

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    I shoot from the hip..... Like Scarface with his M203..........
     
  17. DarinCraft

    DarinCraft New Member

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    No problem, glad I could help out

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  18. NPD5946TSW

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  19. pumpkinball

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    Really matters as to the load, the target, and the distance.
     
  20. BIGBEN

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    I didnt vote because it depends on what size shot you use,in my experience.I wouldnt bother to aim if i was shooting someone 20 feet away with 8 shot.If i was shooting someone at 30 feet with 00,i would aim.Everybody has different comfort levels,every gun is different,and circumstances require different techniques.