Please help me to find an old rifle carabine.

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by octavianparvu, Nov 23, 2009.

  1. octavianparvu

    octavianparvu New Member

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    Hello.
    I am looking foa a old rifle for almost 1 year and i can't find the model.
    If somebody can help me to find the model of the rifle it will be great.

    The gun if from the movie "THE TRAP(1966)" with Oliver Reed.

    I am looking for Oliver Reed rifle from that movie.

    link for picture 1 :http://members.cox.net/rjd0309b/tush/images/Rita-Tushingham-The-Trap-Adam-1058x840.jpeg
    link fot picture 2 : http://members.cox.net/tushmail/tush/images/Rita-Tushingham-The-Trap-Teach-815x1040.jpeg
     
  2. TXnorton

    TXnorton New Member

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    It looks like an American Civil War vintage 1859 Sharps (union calvary or a confederate carbine). Maybe converted from paper cartridges to 50-70 metallic.

    Category Details - Davide Pedersoli & C.
     

  3. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    Looks kinda like a Springfield trapdoor.
     
  4. 30-30remchester

    30-30remchester New Member

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    The photo is too small to identify the rifle. It is not a trapdoor Springfield as it is a 2 piece stock and all trapdoors used one piece stocks. It does resemble an early Sharps carbine however it didnt start life as a carbine. Sharps carbines didnt use a barrel band to hold the forarm on, so it might have been a rifle if it is truly a Sharps. Can you get a closer pic?
     
  5. TXnorton

    TXnorton New Member

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    30-30 - not to agrue, but I think the Sharps 1863 carbine DID use a barrel band for the forearm. Please follow the links below.

    Collector's Firearms

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  6. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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    Not a Sharps. Not a trapdoor. Possible a made-for-the-movies based on a
    Martini?

    Has side "ears" that come back into the buttstock for a horizontal bolt.
    Side hammer, lever operated.

    British maybe? Swiss/German/Austrian/Belgian? I'm going to guess from
    what I see in the picture and what I could get from a glimpse of a
    movie clip on Youtube that it's a Martini type tipping block action.

    ETA: Getting close--- http://www.militaryrifles.com/Spain/More1870SpanPeab.htm

    OK---It's a Peabody. Different versions had minor variations. Based on what I can see
    in the picture, the rear sight looks like it MAY be a cut down 1866 Canadian.

    OR--a Russian contract Peabody Carbine made in Rhode Island?
    http://www.prices4antiques.com/fire...ool-Peabody-Carbine-50RF-Caliber-D9974228.htm
     
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  7. 30-30remchester

    30-30remchester New Member

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    Well I went to my gun safe and inspected my 1863 Sharps and you are correct. It seems I dont shoot it much anymore, a problem I shall cure soon.
     
  8. TXnorton

    TXnorton New Member

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    30-30:

    Tell me a bit about your 1863 Sharps. I have the bug for one, and it is on the Xmas list that I have (kindly) provided for the wife. I am looking at buying the Pedersoli replica of the "Robinson" Confederate carbine. I am very interested in the paper cartridge concept.
     
  9. 30-30remchester

    30-30remchester New Member

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    TX norton: Well my Sharps is an original 1863 US military carbine that was converted after the war to accept the 50-70 gov't cartridge. Nothing special about it, just an interesting piece of American history. After the civil war most went out west to supply the calvery then were either sold dirt cheap or given by our government, to settlers, surveyer, wagontrains, buffalo hunters, ect. If you used your to hunt buffalo the government would give you free ammo at any fort that had any. Since it was mine I have used it to harvest one buffalo.
     
  10. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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    Nice pic. Confirmed, it's a Peabody, just not sure which model.
    Neat looking rifle. Did anybody ever make a replica?

    ETA---looks like someone does! http://www.peabodyrifles.com/
     
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  11. dunerunner

    dunerunner New Member

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    Nice piece on the rifle here Peabody & Martini

    One for sale here Adams Guns

    They appear rare and the one listed at Adams seems to be a fair example.
     
  12. Franchise

    Franchise New Member

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    Have you guys ever seen an Evans repeating rifle? It was made in the 1860's or 1870's by a dentist. They were leverguns that held 24 to 32 rounds I believe. I saw one in Tom Selleck/ L'Amour movie. I think it was used by Wilfred Brimley's character. I looked around to find it as I'd never heard of such a thing. Really a neat piece of hardware. I would love to find one to add to my collection. I would also love to have one of you guys buy it and donate it to my collection. I'm sure they're not cheap.
     
  13. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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    Four of them on GunBroker right now, so it looks like they aren't too rare.
    Interesting design on the magazine. Guess the Calico helical magazine
    was just old technology made of plastic.:)