Plans for AOW's?

Discussion in 'DIY Projects' started by tCan, Mar 3, 2013.

  1. tCan

    tCan Active Member

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    Is anyone aware of any plans for AOW's like a Home Depot .22/shotgun made with steel pipe? Is the ATF granting stamps on such items?
     
  2. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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  3. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    AOW- Any Other Weapon, It is a designation for an NFA firearm that is reulated, but not a machine gun, not a short barreled shotgun etc. Examples include a gun made as a smoothbore pistol that fires shotgun shells, or a disguised firearm, such as a cane gun. Unlike the $200 fee for a Short Barreled Shotgun, an AOW has a $5 fee.

    And sorry, no, do not have blueprints.
     
  4. MisterMcCool

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    Converting an existing firearm into an "any other weapon" requires a BATFE NFA making tax of $200. I think to create a firearm from scratch would require a license.
     
  5. MisterMcCool

    MisterMcCool Well-Known Member Supporter

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    We used to call those "zip guns." I'm pretty sure they aren't legal.
     
  6. tCan

    tCan Active Member

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    It shouldn't so long as you dont make it available for sale and it has a serial number.
     
  7. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Thank you.
     
  8. hiwall

    hiwall Active Member

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    Many people make their own guns. As long as it is for the builder's use (not to be sold) and not a restricted firearm(like a full-auto or too short of barrel) it is perfectly legal. No need to involve the BATFE at all. So if you built your own 1911 from scratch it would be perfectly fine(at least on a federal level).
     
  9. MisterMcCool

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    Home Depot does not sell rifled pipe. This is about an improvised smooth bore pistol (zip gun.) Do not get caught with it.
     
  10. c3shooter

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    Smoothbore pistols ARE legal- but regulated. If they were made from scratch that way, they are an AOW. If made from another firearm (like cutting down a shotgun) it is an SBS.

    Example- this little gem is an Ithaca Auto & Burglar gun. Side by side 12 g. It is NOT a short barreled shotgun- because it began life AS a handgun. It was not a conversion of a shotgun. Even tho it is a smoothbore 12 g.

    AutoBurglar.jpg

    Same paperwork as a Short barreled Shotgun, but the Fed Tax on transfer is $5, not $200.

    Now, if you want to know WHY there is a difference in the LAW- REALLY? You expect laws like this to make sense. What? Are you new here? :p
     
  11. BillDeShivs

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    MAKING an AOW requires paying a $200 tax. Transferring an AOW tax is $5.00.
    There is no license required, unless you are making them for sale.
     
  12. twoolddogs

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    Surf the web for home made firearms. You'll be surprised what kind of plans are out there .
     
  13. tCan

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    My understanding of the law is that if you make a "zip" gun but it clearly looks like a gun and its for your own personal use not manufactured with the intent to sell that it's totally legit. No need to tell the ATF or even put a serial number on it.

    Basically the same laws apply to 80% lowers.
     
  14. BillDeShivs

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    tCan-
    You are correct, as long as the manufactured gun does not fall under the NFA. The OP is asking about smoothbore pistols which are NFA weapons.
     
  15. tCan

    tCan Active Member

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    Oh. So you could buy a rifled barrel and build the rest yourself then?
     
  16. BillDeShivs

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    As long as the gun doesn't fall under NFA rules.