places not to carry your weapon.

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by red ryder, Jan 18, 2010.

  1. red ryder

    red ryder New Member

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    Just got my CT conceal carry permit and picked up a sig 229 w/ accesory rail + night sights in a .40.


    I know the general locations, state and federal buildings, schools, colleges. Are there any other places that usually have a gun ban?

    malls?

    hospitals?

    church?

    what other places do you avoid carrying your gun? and if you do, have to leave it behind do you simply lock it in your glovebox?

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  2. amoroque

    amoroque New Member

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    My understanding is that anyplace that they have security guards and electronic screening devices concealed carry is not allowed i.e airport.
    Also technically on any private property that the owner does not allow firearms.
    Not all colleges have a firearm ban.
     

  3. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    You, of all people, should be the one with the results of your CCW class fresh in your mind.

    I hope you do not carry until you RE-FRESH your laws! Read:

    CT- State Laws
     
  4. red ryder

    red ryder New Member

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    took my class in October, and it focused mostly on safe storage and operation of a pistol.

    we covered that it is unlawful to carry a pistol into a federal building or school, unless the gun is unloaded and you are crossing school property to get to a hunting ground.


    additionally that summary only states that it is unlawful to possess a firearm in a elementary or secondary education school unless you have permission from the school.


    i'm not asking only about statutory law, but what places may be legal to carry, but tend to be avoided?

    also if you choose to leave your weapon behind (say to run into the post office), do you leave it in your glovebox?

    if a mall has a "no gun" policy, does that mean it is an arrestable offense? or simply ask you to leave?
     
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  5. amoroque

    amoroque New Member

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    Maybe this will help.

    Federal bans on firearms

    The following items were compiled by the Congressional Research Service (i.e. this is what they claim, not RMGO).

    16 U.S.C. §26 prohibits the use of a firearm for hunting in Yellowstone National Park. Several other provisions in Title 16 prohibit the use of a firearm in other national parks. Some of those parks include Sequoia, Yosemite, Mount Rainier, Mesa Verde, Wind Cave, Glacier, Rocky Mountain, Lassen Volcanic, Olympic, Hawaii, Shenandoah, Great Smoky, and Mammoth Cave. In other national parks, however, hunting with a firearm is allowed.

    18 U.S.C. §922(q), known as the Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1991, prohibits possession of a firearm in a school zone (on the campus of a public or private school or within 1,000 feet of the grounds). Narrow exceptions are made for the proper authorities, firearms possessed on private property, being transported in an automobile, and several other similar circumstances. (RMGO's Note: a concealed weapons permit allows you to carry in these zones, though state law doesn't allow you to carry in public schools).

    18 U.S.C. §930 prohibits the possession of firearms and dangerous weapons in federal facilities. Higher penalties are set out for carrying such weapons into a federal court facility. Narrow exceptions are made for hunting or other lawful purposes.

    18 U.S.C. §926A authorizes a private citizen, who is not otherwise prohibited from possessing a firearm, to transport a firearm interstate from one location in which the firearm is legal to another as long as the firearm is unloaded and not accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle.

    18 U.S.C. §2277 prohibits the possession of a firearm aboard any U.S. ship without the prior permission of the ship’s master or owner.

    40 U.S.C. §193(f) prohibits the possession or discharge of a firearm or other devices on the U.S. Capitol grounds or in U.S. Capitol buildings.

    49 U.S.C §46303 prohibits the possession of a concealed dangerous weapon (including firearms) in an aircraft.

    40 U.S.C. §46505 prohibits attempting to bring a concealed dangerous weapon on board an aircraft, or placing a loaded firearm on an aircraft in property (e.g., baggage or parcels) not normally available to passengers.

    "i'm not asking only about statutory law, but what places may be legal to carry, but tend to be avoided?"
    I really cant say that I avoid to carry in certain places, it is a CONCEALED weapon permit, keep it CONCEALED and there wont be a problem. IE....dont go flashing it around at a bank or any other place for that matter.

    Leave the weapon in your vehicle it you have to run into a federal building!!

    I cant tell you if a no-gun policy at a mall is an arrestable offense or if they can just ask you to leave. Here in Colorado it is not an arrestable offense, and if you have a CCW you can carry. Again keep it CONCEALED and you shouldn't have a problem.

    I'd have to agree with Canebrake, you should know this stuff after taking your CCW class, maybe you can call up the instructor and ask him/her for your money back. My class covered this stuff in detail. :D
     
  6. red ryder

    red ryder New Member

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    thanks for your reply amoroque

    just wanted some opinions/advice from some people who had been carrying for a number of years.

    for example, there is no specific law about carrying a weapon into a hospital, but my fiance is a RN and has worked at several CT hospitals, all of which she has informed me have a "no gun" policy; although there are not signs posted or security checkpoints.


    in which case I would assume that as long as it stays concealed, there shouldn't be a problem.


    I'm not a gun noob, i have been shooting recreationally for years; but this is my first time around with a CCW.


    let me re-phrase my question alittle bit better.

    1. In CT it lists places that you are not allowed to carry a weapon.

    2. Through my own observation there are locations that I have noticed that have a "no gun" policy.

    3. not all these locations are included under law. (hence my question)
     
  7. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    Didn't they go over all this in your class?
     
  8. red ryder

    red ryder New Member

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    they went over the CT law. ie: federal buildings, schools (unless you have permission)


    what i am seeing is there are places that have a "no gun" policy which were not discussed in the class or in the state laws.

    does anyone else have some insight?
     
  9. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    The FTF flunked our Bar Exam.

    Only a fool would take legal advice from us.

    Taking legal advice from a public forum is only exceeded in stupidity by the people that offer that advice!
     
  10. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    I can only speak for Texas but, if a private business has a "no-gun" policy (other than a restaurant or a bar, which is a completely different story), it needs to be stated in clearly visible signage at the entrance to the business. But abide by Cane's word about legal advice from any of us.
     
  11. rifleman1

    rifleman1 New Member

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    here in california i was told bars and liqure stores.
     
  12. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

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    In the local indian casino they have a big sign with a picture of a gun on it saying they are prohibited.It is on a huge chunk of a reservation,and they even try to require that when the state police are there,that they have to leave thier gun at the door with security-needless to say,the state police simply don't go there because it is a violation for a state officer to be without his gun-so they let the tribal police handle thier own problems.That reservation is nuts,I hear of police barging in homes and threatening people.That reservation is it's own country,I mean,casinos are illegal here in michigan-but on the reservation,they can have them and do whatever they want.
     
  13. N.D.

    N.D. New Member

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    Sorry But we have legal Casinos right here in downtown Detroit Michigan, but we cant CC there.

    N.D.
     
  14. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

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    That's what I never understood.As far as I have ever known,casinos are illegal in Michigan.I know there was a huge legal fight they had or something,did that fight make them legal-I don't know or remember.
     
  15. MoHawk

    MoHawk New Member

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    BAck to the OP. I believe, and this is NOT advice, that a place that has a No-Gun POLICY (not law) such as a mall, can only ask you to leave. You are not breaking any laws besides Trespassing by not folling their rules
     
  16. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    ....okay.....huh?

    Laws vary from state to state. Not sure what state you're in, Mohawk, but the OP simply needs to research the laws from his OWN STATE.

    I'm pretty sure that, if a private business has a sign that says "No Guns," then they can do much more than just ask you to leave.

    Of course, this all depends upon what PLANET you're from.
     
  17. MoHawk

    MoHawk New Member

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    They can press trespassing charges... Atleast here in VA. Nothing more unless the weapon was used in the commision of a crime yada yada
     
  18. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    OK, the only answer to the OP is to check his state laws. It's quite simple. It can be found on the Internet.
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  19. russ

    russ New Member

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    Similar to the OP situation, my CCW class focused on gun handling and safety, with some marksmanship and technique, but very little on legality and practice of actually carrying.
     
  20. red ryder

    red ryder New Member

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    thanks for the post. i'm not an idiot; just trying to be smart about where I carry.

    I'll talk to my local PD this week and post back what I hear.