"Pit Bull Row"

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by Chapman87, Apr 16, 2011.

  1. Chapman87

    Chapman87 New Member

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    week's Westword, Jared Jacang Maher investigates whether twenty years of outlawing pit bulls in Denver has made the city safer. (You can also read more about the numbers of dogs killed in "Pit Bull Row"). Here, a photo tour of the city's "pit bull row," the home of Denver's confiscated pit bulls (and the place where thousands have been euthanized over the years). Photos by Anthony Camera. Text by Maher.
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    In 1989, Denver City Council passed a law banning pit bulls. Any dog suspected of having a majority mix of the breed is impounded at the municipal animal shelter at 678 South Jason Street.
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    Suspected pit bulls are housed in a special section of the shelter known as "pit bull row."
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    ​Each dog is evaluated by three shelter employees to see if it has the "the majority of the characteristics" of the three pit bull breeds defined in the ordinance: American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier and the American Pit Bull Terrier.
    ​Since 1992, 5,286 pit bulls have been impounded by the city under the ordinance.
     
  2. Chapman87

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    This two-year-old dog, name unknown, has been designated an "illegal pit bull."
    ​Pit bulls can be released if their owners pay impound fees and provide proof that the dog will be relocated out of city limits.
    ​The law prevents shelters in Denver from putting pit bulls up for adoption. So dogs like this one with no identified owner will only be released if staff can find space in shelters outside the city. But such arrangements are rare.
    Under the ban, Denver has put down an estimated 3,497 pit bulls.
    ​From pick up to euthanization, it costs the city roughly $256 per pit bull.
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    Doug Kelly became director of Denver's animal control in 2000. He can offer no definitive proof that the pit bull ban works. Still, his agency must enforce what's written in the ordinance.

    MORE OF THE ARTICLE CAN BE FOUND HERE.

    http://for-the-pits.blogspot.com/2009/09/westword-covers-denver-pit-bull-ban.html

    AND HERE

    http://www.westword.com/2009-09-24/...n-denver-but-maybe-it-s-time-for-a-recount/1/


    SAY (VOTE!) NO TO BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION!!!
     
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  3. dog2000tj

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    How is that the people of this city allow such stupidity from their elected officials? :(
     
  4. Chapman87

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    I dont know. Its just like the article says, the dogs are killed for looking a certain way, not for acting a certain way
     
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  5. JonM

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    its the owners that should be sitting behind bars. letting a dangerous animal run loose isnt the animal's fault it lays squarely on the owner. when properly trained they make fine pets. but most owners think they are cool and just get one to look cool and put no effort into ownership or responsibility.

    i have to go through hoops to be safe with firearms and ensure that when i take them out to use them they dont hurt anyone. if i am negligent with my firearms i end up in jail.

    pitbull and similar dog owners get a "dont do it again" the dog gets killed. all blame is placed on the dog instead of the idiot that turned it loose.
     
  6. Chapman87

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    I agree with you and 99.9% of what you said. However, I did not have to train mine to be a fine pet, she came like that. You have to train them to be vicious and fight if you want them to.

    thanks!
     
  7. Shihan

    Shihan Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I don't care for the Breed myself. Just my opinion.
     
  8. Chapman87

    Chapman87 New Member

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    Care to tell me why? Just curious. There are many breeds I dont care for but that is mainly because of physical traits.
     
  9. Shihan

    Shihan Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Let me first state that I have owned Pits and I have bred Rottweilers since the 80's. Pits were bred for one purpose. People will say the breed is a Staffordshire terrier. They may have Staffordshire in them and they will say they are Amstaffs. They were a combination of the breeds, bred for the purpose of fighting and fighting alone. There are Game bred and Show bred Pits and the differences in the two can not make a Standard for the breed.

    There is a reason Pit Bulls are not recognized by the AKC.

    I do not accept papers from the CKC. I can send a photo of a dog that looks like the breed and have the CKC accept it as that breed.

    The UKC is no better.
     
  10. Chapman87

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    Can I ask where you get your information?



    AKC Recognized...
    American Kennel Club - American Staffordshire Terrier Did You Know?


    EDIT; I think I mis-understood your post. Are you saying that AmStaffs or APBTs are not recognized? Also, just because APBTs were bred for fighting in 1900 does not mean the dogs of today are bred for that. They are bred just like AmStaffs are, great working, competition, show and "pet" dogs.
     
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  11. Shihan

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  12. Chapman87

    Chapman87 New Member

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    I edited my post before you responded (or could have been during).

    Can I ask you to explain the difference? Also, if its not too much to ask, can you have proof?
     
  13. M14sRock

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    I have only had one Pit, and she is an outstanding dog. I've had several friends with Pits, and they have all been great dogs, too. The Pits I've encountered that were "problematic" all had "macho douchebag" owners.

    My experience is limited, but we love out Pit.
     
  14. Shihan

    Shihan Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    A Pit is like the Glock of the Dog world.

    If you want good info on the Bulldog breeds and the differences in the breed types here is a link. Bull and Terrier breeds.

    Not Gonna Argue.
     
  15. Gatekeeper

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    Loved my Pit. Although super headstrong and at times aggravating, he was an incredibly smart and loving member of the family. He got along great with people, all people.
    He was almost too nice.
    He loved my older lab(i think he thought she was his mom:p) and although he tolerated and was well behaved around my relative's dogs, he was from game dog bloodlines. Even though I had never taught him to, or even considered fighting him he had a natural dislike for any stray dogs that would wander onto his farm. You can't change thousands of years of breeding.:rolleyes:
    While he disliked strange dogs, there was only one thing he absolutely hated... groundhogs. He would stalk and kill any he could find and he got quite good at it.
    They are a great breed and will be loyal, protective and attentive companians. They need an owner to give them the same treatment and the respect they deserve.
     
  16. Chapman87

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    I am not looking for an argument. I like to know where people are coming from and what their opinions are based on. Again, no argument intended.
     
  17. Benning Boy

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    "Dangerous Breed" is a ridiculous classification created by the same minds that think black guns are evil.

    I've been attacked by tiny dogs with a-hole owners, and adored by giant dogs with good owners

    It's really all about rap music.

    Had two or three big name rappers done videos with Standard Poodles, Pits would be off the thug life hook, and we'd be looking at banning the world's dumbest dog breed.
     
  18. russ

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    Quote of the day right there.

    My sister has a pit that looks very much like the white one pictured with the "warden". She works at a vet clinic and this dog was a regular. The owner took good care of him and even had him on the "wellness" plan at the vet. Then one day, the owner brings him in to have him put down. She says he can't seem to get along with her new puppy, so he should be put down. My sister asked if she could try to find him a new home instead, and after the lady agreed, she just kept him. About a week later, I saw him for the first time. His face was all full of little scabs and scars from the dagger-like puppy teeth biting him in the face over and over. I would have kicked the puppy's ass too. The lady was a dumbass and didn't deserve him. He's 5 years old, and gets along great with my sister's older dog. He has become an excellent watchdog and is very loyal to my sister already. It's almost like he knows the fate she saved him from. I'd take one just like him in a heartbeat.
     
  19. Chapman87

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    Russ, great story. Anyone that takes a perfectly good dog in to be put down is a nut job. They just cant take the time to work things out and obviously dont care to.
     
  20. igordog

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    I can't even look at this. It hurts too much. Euthanize bad owners and breeders. Not dogs who have done nothing wrong.