Pistol Cleaning - Jag or Loop on Cleaning Rod?

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by bf109, Mar 11, 2011.

  1. bf109

    bf109 New Member

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    Hi, I just got a Walther P1 9mm and a Tipton 12" cleaning rod, which does not come with a jag or loop.

    When cleaning your pistols, do you use jag or loop on you rod when passing patches thru the barrel? I'll order a 8-32 jag or loop to go with my rod but don't know which way of cleaning of more effective and conventional.

    Also, for 9mm pistol, what's the optimal size of patches? I saw Midway has 1-3/4 square ones for 9mm, .357.

    Thanks for your help.
     
  2. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    I use a jag, otherwise you're just running a dirty patch back and forth.

    The size patches you're referring to should work nicely for your 9mm.
     

  3. ManInBlack83

    ManInBlack83 New Member

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    I use both. I use the slotted tip to thoroughly soak the barrel with solvent before running a brush down and I use a jag at the end of the cleaning process.

    Doesn't hurt to have both.
     
  4. lonyaeger

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    I keep patches soaking in solution in a small screw-top container permanently. That way, when I'm cleaning, I always have soaked patches at my fingertips. Push one of those babies through the bore with a jag and it's plenty wet.
     
  5. Overkill0084

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    Jag tip. Never saw a use for the loop tip. YMMV
     
  6. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    What's a loop tip? ;) I only use a jag.
     
  7. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    Oh, I just realized I made what I'm sure will be a Freudian Slip. :eek:
     
  8. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    Yeah. I find myself being ultra careful with what I say these days. :eek:
     
  9. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    i use a jag for pistols since its easy to line the dripping wet patch with the bore. i like the loop for rifles to wet the bore it helps keep a lot of solvent out of the reciever and action. always a jag with a clean dry patch.
     
  10. bf109

    bf109 New Member

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    Thanks much for your quick response. I'll pick up a jag for 12" rod for pistol and a loop tip for my rifles later.

    BTW, do you find the BoreSnake handy at the range? For quick cleaning, can I just the Snake at range? Is it an effective way of cleaning?

    Not sure if I want to use solvent with the Snake but may use gun oil.

    What's your experience? Thanks again.
     
  11. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    The only time I use a Boresnake at all is for rimfires, and that's the ONLY way I clean a rimfire bore.....without any solvent, oil, or anything.

    And how many rounds do you think you'll go through at your range sessions?
     
  12. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    an oil soaked bore snake is fantastic for very longterm storage.

    a solvent soaked snake is better than sliced bread for severly copper fouled barrels soak it down run it into the barrel leave it and let it sit.


    i use a clean snake soaked in oil to oil the barrels of my rifles for the winter. they sit for nearly 4 months before i start usig them again in the spring. but i got quite a few rifles

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    with that many barrels to keep rust free a few clean snakes are invaluble for quick maintenece. i dont have to mess around continously soaking patches to get em all oiled. i dont have to take em apart removing bolts etc to get em oiled.


    they arent much good for actually cleaning.
     
  13. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    Once I discovered bore snakes, I never used a jag or loop again.
     
  14. BobandWife

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    ...I store bore snakes in the WIDE MOUTH flavored water bottles you buy just about any where. That way they don't smell up the range-bag. Don't forget BORE-SNAKES can be washed and hung out on the clothes line when they get dirty. MAGIC MARKER on the labels of the bottles tell me just what caliber is in the bottles, as I usually go to the range with multiple caliber guns.
     
  15. BobandWife

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    ...snake is very handy at the range. I use oil at the rear and solvent at the front of the snake. I also store my snakes in a flavored water bottle (which has been washed and cleand-the big mouth type at Walmart). By storing in these bottles your tote bag doesn't smell and your snake stays clean and untangled in your range bag. I turn the label upside down and REtape it to the bottle. That gives me a nice white surface to mark 30-30 or 22LR etc, making it easy to find which snake I'm looking for. The bottles never leave my range bag. Snakes can be washed as neccesary with dish soap (very good degreaser), let air dryand return to bottle.
     
  16. gollygee

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    I've read a lot of posts on other forums about the jag vs patch. Seems to be about evenly divided. I've only used patches & a brush. I decided to give the jag a try. Grabbed one off the shelf at my favorite gun store & the guy at the counter said he didn't think it was an advantage, so I put it back, saving $5. :)
     
  17. Nicodemus

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    Same with me, lay a wet patch over the end of a bore brush followed by dry patches over the bore brush. ;)
     
  18. BlueTurf

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    I use a caliber-specific jag only, never the traditional patch holder. As previously pointed out, with a regular loop patch holder you are running a dirty patch back and forth through your barrel. Also, the sides of the patch holder are making contact with the inside surface of your barrel while doing this. You need to push the patch through the barrel one time in one direction.

    I shoot copper jacket bullets only. I use copper solvents such as Sweets 7.62 and it works very well, but I have actually gotten the best cleaning results from a foaming bore cleaner called Wipe Out. After cleaning the barrel the regular way with a copper solvent I sometimes use the Wipe Out also. I fill the barrel with it and let it sit for about three hours. I was surprised at home much additional fouling was removed and this product does not harm the metal. I have been told that some people let the copper solvents sit in their barrels for extended periods of time but I have also been told that this can cause pitting in the barrel.
     
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  19. partdeux

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    Sorry for the stupid questions...

    Leaving pads soaking in cleaner, is it difficult to separate them?

    How do you put the pad on a jag? Is there a double secret wrapping formula?

    Is a bore snake better wet or barely damp?
     
  20. promis29

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    I usually take a bore snake in my bag. I use it immediately after shooting a pistol or revolver. I usually take three weapons to the range with me and as I put a gun back in the range bag I snake the bore from the chamber to the front. I clean the whole gun later. I go target shooting once a week.