Personal Protection

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by right winger, Aug 31, 2008.

  1. right winger

    right winger New Member

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    If you could choose only one .40 cal. round for personal protection.
    Which one would you choose and why?
     
  2. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    To trust my life too??

    How about the .40-70 Sharps - in a T/C handgun? :D

    I'll only get one shot, but if you are talking one shot and done, this one has a great chance of pulling it off. Or setting the guy on fire with the flame from the barrel. :cool:

    I assume you are looking for an ammo recommendation? Are you looking for some sort of one round stop from a .40 caliber handgun round? I am afraid those stories don't really exist in the real world, but there are several good self defense cartridges in .40 S&W, which is what I assume you mean.

    Before I became a convert to the 1911, and when I carried a .40 Sig P-229, These are the rounds that I carried for personal protection...

    JD
     

  3. JPBeck

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    Well I have a feeling JD is not going to like this... but I like my Beretta 94. Mine is going on 25K rounds and I haven't tasted the slide yet. :cool:
    I carried one for the first 4 years in the service, then they alloted us the P228 (9mm). I don't know why, the weapon worked great and it went bang every time. I like the feel of the 94, it has heft like my beloved 1911-- I don't like the safety on it though. With training though you get used to it and it's OK.
     
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  4. Dillinger

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    Nah - Doesn't bother me at all bro, but I think he is asking for a round, not a weapon to fire it.

    JD
     
  5. JPBeck

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    lol-- my bad-- all day at the zoo with the sun beating down on my balding head.

    .40 Corbon JHP-- 165 grain
    I get 1135 out of my 94, and 1105 out of my Walther P99.
    Good all around round. Not too expensive, so you can afford to practice with it.

    Why just plain old JHP-- because I rely on shot placement and not magic bullets. If shot placement fails I'll keep shooting until the bad guy goes down. :)
     
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  6. pioneer461

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    Just about any major manufacturer's personal defense .40 S&W round.
     
  7. RL357Mag

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    Based on actual shooting data, the Cor-Bon 135 gr. JHP produces 96% one-shot kills, with 9.8" of penetration at 1,300 FPS. That's as close to perfection as is possible in a defensive handgun. The only other round that offers 96% one-shot stops in the .357Mag., not even the .45ACP can deliver that performance, it tops out at 94% using Fed. 230gr HydraShoks at 12" penetration and 850FPS. This is why I bought a .40 Beretta and a .357 Mag. revolver.
     
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  8. Dillinger

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    Yeah, but you have to put the .45 in hands that can use it. Put one of your FBI guys with small hands needing the .40 Smith up against Larry Vickers or Eric Lee Haney and see who has more hits/kills at the end of the day. :D

    JD
     
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    Jeez - what are you standing over my shoulder! I just hit the enter key and here's a reply! LMAO!!!
    Agreed JD - if you can't shoot, the best JHP or frangible will NOT help. I don't often carry either the .357 OR the .40 because they are too damned heavy and bulky in Spring/Summer. My Walther clone in .380 will suffice with 75% one-shot stop capability IMO. I just have to do the double-tap! Of course if I was a Vickers or Haney I would get away with a Jenkins .22 and just make one shot to the head!
     
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  10. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Agreed my friend. 100% agreed....

    JD
     
  11. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    You know, the FBI tried 10mm for a short time after that Florida shoot out. Those knuckleheads couldn't hit a barn at point blank range! And they were crying about the recoil too... It's my Humble Opinion that, we issue the FBI sling shots and pea gravel for ammo.

    Leave the 45's & 10mm's s to us experienced shooters...
     
  12. Dillinger

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    That was kind of my point. The FBI has gone through generations worth of EEO and "balancing" of their force so that it has become more of a watered downed, stepping stone path to something else, like getting your law degree and moving on up.

    You no longer seem to have the hard charging, career minded agents like they had back when the Bureau was started. At least, the majority is not like that ( NOTE: FBI HRT Teams aside ).

    If you took a standard cross section of a field office when they were hunting down John Dillinger back in the day, and laid it next to a cross section of the field office of say, the Atlanta Olympic Park Bombing investigation, I am sure you would notice some very serious differences across the board. While the tactics and tools and science was greatly advanced, the overall dedicated "police" skills of the average agent would not compare.

    Throw in about a thousand levels of bureaucracy, because God Forbid someone be able to make a decision and stand behind it, and you have the average FBI of today. Gender-normed, watered down, with more college degrees in an office than actual team members with real world operational experience.

    After all, you can't expect an M.I.T. grad to have to worry about carrying a weapon AND being able to use the damn thing. :rolleyes:

    JD