[Personal Protection Stories]

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by JohnnyFive, Jan 17, 2008.

  1. JohnnyFive

    JohnnyFive New Member

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    Have you ever had an encounter where you had to use your firearm or someone else was using one against you?

    Please post about it.... Thanks :D
     
  2. ScottG

    ScottG New Member

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    I've had nothing like that happen to me. However one night I broke out the guns because the news reported an escaped killer on the loose near my area. They were ready for use, but fortunately never had to be used.
     

  3. matt g

    matt g New Member Supporter

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    Each fire fight was pretty traumatic and I'd prefer not to have to relive each incident just to amuse you.
     
  4. Boris

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    Young man please don't be offended by the remarks of our colleague mattg, but he is quite right. These incidents to many are extremely traumatic and personal, and we all have issues with such experiences which are dealt with at an individual level. Life is not a movie and sometimes it does not play to the script.
     
  5. Dibby

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    Wow. Don't stop to think that perhaps he was just curious. Perhaps he wished to learn from the experience of others so as not to repeat life-threatening mistakes.
     
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  6. matt g

    matt g New Member Supporter

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    The old cliche that "curiosity killed the cat," proves true in this instance. I have never met one person that has killed, or nearly escaped a bad situation with their life intact that wants to regale people with the story. Generally those that do are lying.

    No offense was meant, but I did have a point in my statement.
     
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  7. dz1087

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    I've talked with many a vet that has killed, and none of them wanted to talk to me about it. Sort of 'if you weren't there you wouldn't understand.' Can't really pry much deeper than that.
     
  8. MarkoPo

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    When I was really young probably eight or so I asked my dad who was in the Korean conflict if he ever had to kill anyone. He told me he didn't know and he didn't want to talk about it. On the day of his funeral a few weeks ago I was talking to my uncle who used to live with my dad when they were young. I told him about the conversation I had with my dad, and my uncle told me my dad had indeed fought for his life in Korea many times. My dad was in the Corp of Engineers building bridges, and I always thought he had some safe construction type job. I was very wrong. I wish my dad would of shared some of the experiences he had, but I respect the fact he didn't want to talk about things that obviously really bothered him about the war. My heart goes out to the soldiers who currently serve in the military and those who served in the past. Your experiences will change you for life and I hope and pray I never have to experience some of the situations you have been in, but know some of us only ask because we care. Not what you had to go through, but that you came out alright and it hopefully made you a better and stronger person.
     
  9. glockfire

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    My whole life I never heard stories about death from my military family members until I enlisted. Then they were almost lining up to give me their experiences. I saw grown-combat-hardened men cry and felt the sadness still in their hearts even after 10-50 years. It scares me.

    When I was camping with my fiance once, I only had Mini 14 on me just for fun. I shot it at a berm a couple of times before a hike. While putting on my pack, I set my rifle down and I heard foot steps behind me. I turned around to see 2 shotgun weilding men obviously angry. They told me that I had been shooting at them and that if they saw me around this place again that I would learn my lesson. I had been shooting into a berm 20 feet away and obviously not at them, but I wasnt about to argue my case knowing that my rifel was 2 yards away while these men were 3 feet away. I apologized and told them I had no intentions of sparking an incident, and that we should all cool down and move along. Pushing and such followed, and eventually I had a shot gun pointed at my gut. I put my hands up and asked them if we could leave. I packed up under their supervision while my fiance (girlfriend at the time) stayed in the tent until we got into my old Dakota and sped off. I got to the road and called the police with the area that these men were in and told them the situation, making sure the police knew they were armed. I never found out what had happened to them but Ive been back to that area a couple of times and never saw them, so I assume its safe now.

    It was honestly terrifying to be in that situation, not for my sake but just knowing my girlfriend was unarmed was very scary for me. Having a loaded .223 right by me but not being able to get it felt so stupid and scary. I thank god almighty that it was barely physical and nobody got hurt (other than my pride).

    From this, I learned the importance speaking softly and carrying a big stick. Both my fiance and I carry .38spc revolvers on our hips anytime we enter the rocky mountains, and we both know how to use them. At the same time, Im a strong advocate of de-escalation of a volatile situation. Whenever possible, leave without anybody getting hurt, but if necessary, hurt someone so you may go home alive.

    Still, this situation put alot of fear into me, and I am honestly paranoid in situations that feel like they could go bad, which may someday turn into a good thing.

    My advice is just to remember diplomacy, but if that doesnt work then protect yourself however possible.
     
  10. matt g

    matt g New Member Supporter

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    You were in the wrong. Did you check to see what was behind the berm or where your ricochets were going? Did you yell to see if there was anyone else in the area? Had your head not been in your ass in the first place, the whole situation would never have happened.
     
  11. glockfire

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    Oh almighty master, please enlighten me with your knowledge of surroundings of Sugar Loaf Mountain, Colorado. Please tell me about the fact that I camp and shoot there many times throughout the year, please enlighten me on the fact that the berm is against a steep mountain that no one can camp on . Please tell me about how my bullets went into the dirt and into the mountain while I was shooting downhill into a berm with nothing behind it but steep mountain face.

    Dont pretend to know the terrain unless you know the terrain. Which you dont.
     
  12. hillbilly68

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    Uh yeah, agree with Glock. Up your meds dude and relax. That is the same logic as blaming a rape victim for what she was wearing.

    Sorry that you had that happen to you, you could have legally killed them both. You sure had justification in your case. Two more criminals that are still circulating. No excuse to have a gun pointed at you. Prolly worked out for the best the way it went down, just glad that you and GF came out unscathed. Don't beat yourself up about it though, just AAR it and take the lessons you learned forward with you.

    Back on the original subject, it is more common than you would think to use a firearm for defense. What is less common is actually having to pull the trigger. My 3 (yes, 3) incidents were not exciting at all. And all three involved...dogs. Once when I was a teen, had to kill a feral dog (we had a LOT of issues out in the country with wild dogs that would grow vicious and would attack either our dogs or as they grew bolder, people). Two other times were "non shooters" just out of the holster and ready (separate incidents were Shepherds that were uncomfortably close and threatening, one near my son).

    Lesson learned for me, always carry. The one time I truly needed it for the two legged creep variety I didn't have it. It was just outside FT Bragg (those of you that know Fayettenam understand). My wife and I were in my truck and a youg gentleman had decided that I apparently had offended him somehow (I have no idea why, but who ever knows). Well he piles out of his little car and heads straight for my door. Checked his hands, couldn't see them. It was spring time, hot NC weather and he had the "arctic wear" going so I couldn't tell if he had a weapon. I had 2 choices, run him over with the best weapon I had (my 4k lb truck) or reverse and back up (no one behind me). That is what I chose to do. Thank God I had the room to do so, would have been the same option had I been armed also. Again, not an exciting anecdote, but a lesson learned for all of us. I took away one of my options by not carrying that day. If it is legal (location and permit) , carry 'em gents.
     
  13. Landor

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    This is as up close and personal as it gets.

    Complete Interview With Man Who Used Concealed Weapon To Stop Robbery.


    If you watch this whole video the man touches base on how important it is for you to practice, practice, practice so you don't accidentally shoot someone else. There is no text book answers for a self defense situation. Every incident will be different for everybody. He also touches base on the castle doctrines bill.

    http://kotv.com/e-clips/?id=5600
     
  14. hillbilly68

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    Thanks for posting that Landor. This is what the typical CCW holder is made of IMO. Not a "vigilante", not a wannabe cop, not a wild west mentality. One can obviously see that it was an emotional experience for the gentleman, that he had no regrets over doing the shooting, but an emotion of relief that it went the way it did. A cool customer for sure, and a full understanding of the ROE for the situation (he didn't shoot again after the threat was stopped). A lot of pressure on him in retrospect. Too bad about the sentencing, but that is the world we live in.