Personal opinion on reloading?

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by Tidalforce79, Nov 9, 2010.

  1. Tidalforce79

    Tidalforce79 New Member

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    Do you think it's ok for companies to void warranties based on someone reloading? I mean, if the gun blows up cause you use a credit card load that's one thing, but, to be honest, the guns I have shot have had better luck with reloads as far as jamming, etc.
     
  2. Biohazard2

    Biohazard2 Active Member

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    Yes, they have no control over your reloading, the steel that the companies make the rifles and pistols out of is of certain quality per the caliber size.
    If we exceed that quality and the gun explodes, should they be responsible?
     

  3. patret

    patret New Member

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    All companies have the right to void warranties for whatever reason they choose. It is their legar right. Some reloaders are very good while other`s think they know more than the reloading books. The books do change because of the varying methods of pressure testing. I reload and accept the risk that my warranty may be void.

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  4. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    yes it should void the warranty and typically its the case that fails to high pressure not the gun. this isnt always true buts its more often than not the "case" :)

    as stated above there is no documentable hold up in court type means that the individual has to prove their super home brew zombie buster didnt break the gun.

    all that being said following the loading manuals zealously most handloaders havent any trouble. ive been loading since the late 80's and ive had more problems with mass produced ammo than my own loads. the benefits of more accurate, consistant, and wider selection of bullets far out weigh the risk of voiding a warranty.
     
  5. WoodysKJ

    WoodysKJ New Member

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    Lets back up a bit. Think about the average gun manufacturer in a design meeting.

    "MMM Lets design a gun. Okay lets use XYZ steel for the frame.... and for the barrel we will use... What stress standards do we use?"

    For obvious safety and legal reasons the manufacturers MUST use a set level of standards. Those standards are based upon accepted levels of power produced in factory loads for standard calibers.

    Hand Loads or Reloads are outside of that set standards. Reloading does allow the reloader to work with powders, primers and projectiles that are standard and proven, just not in standardized formulas.

    ONLY an idiot would grant a warrantee based upon the deviation of an accepted power level and manufacturing practice.
     
  6. opaww

    opaww New Member

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    I have been reloading for around 30+ years, and I make all my reloads under max loads so they are safe as I can get them. But many people tend to think they can just load what ever they want to and a lot of times they are way out of specs. Like the guy at the range early this past summer who blew the mag right out of his hand gun with hot loads. He even bragged about them being hot-hot loads, now he has a worthless hand gun.
     
  7. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    IMO, If I have a firearm I want to keep warranty on, I shoot commercial ammo. On those that I don't care about the warranty, I will shoot reloads.
     
  8. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    I can understand the manufacturers point of view but as a reloader I believe that if you keep the loads within spec, you'll be fine. Please keep in mind the idiot factor.....when you build something you have to account for the dumbest of the dumb.
     
  9. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    If you stay within the load data int he reloading manuals you should have no problems. Why do they need to know you were shooting reloads?
     
  10. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    Well, that's exactly what I was thinking.........
     
  11. Tidalforce79

    Tidalforce79 New Member

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    Agreed, as a matter of fact however, my dad loaded some 44 loads too hot for the desert eagle, up to 1500ft lbs, and the ejector pin inside the bolt was cut in half!, so I can see a companies point being weary about reloads, however, the reloaded ammo Ive fired jams less then factory ammo.......so, no need for them to know.
     
  12. hogrider

    hogrider New Member

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    Would you use your reload for self-defense use. I've always thought a recipe in a reloading manual should be okay for self-defense also. I think in both cases it comes down the liability issue. I may be wrong but it's what I think the bottom line is. Who would be libel for your blown up gun should that happen? Or who would be libel for injuries. Just my thoughts.
     
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  13. opaww

    opaww New Member

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    I trust my reloads for self defense, but there is a few legal people who are trying to use the reloads in self defense cases to get a judgement against lawful people that use them.
     
  14. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    New sig line Spitty...
     
  15. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    See there is the difference. If I screw up and break my gun I know it was me and I have the guts to say to myself I broke it I need to fix it. Breaking some thing because your stupid then expecting someone else to pay to fix it is just wrong.
     
  16. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    yes and no. would i be confident they would perform?? yes definately. if this was an actual free country not run by trial lawyers i would use em.

    would i be confident the dead scumbag's sleazy relative's liberal trial lawyer would use it against me?? yes definately.

    so i use factory defense rounds in my SD guns.
     
  17. Overkill0084

    Overkill0084 Active Member

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    If I ruin my gun through my own stupity, I will not try to hand it to the manufacturer and expect them to fix it under warranty. My stupidity, my problem.
    For anti-personnel use, I will not use reloads. One less issue to explain in court.
     
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  18. mpd8488

    mpd8488 New Member

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    Another way to think about it this issue is the money you save by reloading. If you are a diligent shooter, after a couple of years the money you save on buying commercial ammo could likely more than pay for another gun if something did happen and the manufacturer refused to honor the warranty. But let's be realistic, if you are loading within spec, they will have no idea.
     
  19. oldgrunt

    oldgrunt New Member

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    Reloads

    Would I trust my life to my reloads? Yes.
    Would I trust my life to someone else's reloads? No way.
     
  20. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    It would be difficult to prove a load was a reload unless you used a primer different than the case originally came with.