Pellet Pistol

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by ninjatoth, Oct 11, 2009.

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  1. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

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    I have a funny question,one that doesn't really fit anywhere but here,because it deals with handgun laws.Here in Michigan,any pellet gun is considered a firearm,reguardless of caliber,air source,or velocity,and they take it one step further to require all pellet pistols to be purchased under a pistol purchase permit,and to be registered,which of course means that you cannot conceal carry one without a concealed weapons permit.My question is this:How in the world do you register a gun that has no serial number?I have never tried to buy a pellet pistol and register it,it has to be a fairly new law sice I had a pellet pistol when I was 12 which was 17 years ago,and it was bought without a handgun permit.I think it is the silliest law I ever heard of.You must be 21 to purchase a pellet pistol,and register it and it is not that dangerous,but at age 18,you can buy a high capacity ak-47 here with no registration,it all makes no sense to me.
     
  2. Highpower

    Highpower New Member

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    I don't know anything about Michigan State firearms law, so I can't comment about that.

    I DO know that the terms "Pellet Pistol" and "Concealed Carry" have no business being used together in the same place, at the same time. Unless perhaps you are participating in some "suicide" forum somewhere.... :mad:

    Not trying to stir the pot here - just say'in.......
     

  3. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

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    As stupid as it sounds,you absolutely have to have a concealed weapon permit to conceal carry a pellet pistol here.Even on the pistol purchase permit,there are check marks for either revolver,semi auto,or pellet.
     
  4. stalkingbear

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    I think what he's trying to say is why in hell would you even WANT to conceal a pellet pistol? It just don't make sense to conceal a pellet pistol to me. It would be asking for trouble IMO.
     
  5. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

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    I know what you guys are saying,but if someone did get it in their mind to conceal a pellet gun,you would have to have a CCW to do it here.I think pellet pistols should have no business being classified as handguns since the most powerful ones out there acheive maybe 30 ft lbs of energy,and those ones are usually single shot.
     
  6. IGETEVEN

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    WTH?? First off, if any one conceals a pellet gun, it would probably most likely be someone under the age or someone who cannot obtain a real handgun or permit to carry one. Second, if they are concealing a pellet gun, it will only be a matter of time, before something bad and traumatic will happen.........to them! :eek:

    Jack
     
  7. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

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    My point is the opposite,in fact,in Michigan a pellet pistol IS a real handgun,and cannot be purchased without a background check and pistol purchase permit,and the pellet pistol must be registered,just like and other handgun.Michigan sees no difference between a .177 pellet pistol and a .44 magnum,absolutely no difference to them.And by Michigan laws,a minor cannot even shoot or hold any handgun, only the registered owner or a cpl holder can handle the gun.So,my point is that Michigan has some really stupid laws.
     
  8. stalkingbear

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    I agree they're some damn stupid laws that consider a pellet pistol the same as a real firearm.
     
  9. dunerunner

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    I wonder if Michigan requires you to register a Spud-gun. Along the same line, would you need a CCW permit to carry a Spud-gun concealed??

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  10. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

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    I'm not sure what a spud-gun is,either I am dumb,or it isn't common.Michigan only classifies PELLET guns are firearms.BB guns,airsoft,paintball etc are not firearms.If it is a bb/pellet gun that can load bbs or pellets,it is still considered a firearm.I can buy 2 almost identical air pistols,both with the same velocity,capacity,air source,but one only loads bbs,and one can load pellets also.I could buy the bb only gun over the counter,but here in Michigan,they put the ones that can load a pellet in the gun case,and you must get a pistol permit to even buy it,then it is registered.
     
  11. dunerunner

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    Ninja...It's a joke! They're $1.25 each. You stuff the muzzle into a potato which produces a small potato pellet. Then sqeezing the grip fires the potato pellet with air pressure.

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    Because potatoes are nearly all water, these retro spud guns are safe for kids all of ages. You can expect up to 300 shots per potato - depending on the size. Shooting & reloading is very simple and detailed directions are included. Pellets fire best when potato is dry / cold.
     
  12. c3shooter

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    Well, to answer your question directly- that is, the serial number-
    1. I have firearms (real ones) in my collection that have never HAD a serial number. They were not required on rifles and shotguns until the 1968 gun control act. They go in my records as NSN (no serial number)

    2. I have at least one pellet gun that does have a serial number.

    3. If you expect laws to make sense, you are certain to be disappointed in other things as well. :rolleyes:
     
  13. Highpower

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    I seem to remember a few posts by ninjatoth about this exact same thing. Pellet gun laws and all. I wonder why the repeat of these posts about Michigan law. Maybe your ADHD has taken control and you forget about posting the same thing over and over? I'm just sayin'. :confused:
     
  15. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

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    bravo DR skullcrusher.You must be pretty intellegent to diagnose someone over the internet
     
  16. skullcrusher

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    Thank you very much.
     
  17. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    This is... down right Stupid. Only Michigan liberals could possibly come up with something this absurd.
     
  18. ninjatoth

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    Michigan is such a friendly state,full of woods and nice people,and for the most part,not violent at all,it's pretty much Canada.But,there is a little place called Detroit that just so happens to be attached to us,that needs to go!That's the whole reason for the pellet pistol laws i'm sure.Robberies using pellet guns,and people probably shooting each other with whatever kind of gun they find,even pellet.
     
  19. orangello

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    But what if someone have a pathological fear of squirrels? Have they no right to protect themselves?
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  20. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    That's a shame, the entire state gets penalized because of some stupid butt-wipes in Detroit... I've been to Detroit, no desire to go back either. I would just love for someone to "try" to rob me with a pellet gun. I would fuk them up beyond recognition...

    Squirrels, I cap those little glorified rodents with my Gamo .177. One shot kill every time.
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2009
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