Ive got a Savage Mark11 NIB i bought a couple months back. It came witha 4x "made in china" scope on it. Looking through it, it just is what it is and im sure will do the trick for stock. Now im at the LGS the other day, and the guy behind the counter loves to throw me diff. models and makes to take a look at, "see how they feel" lol. He hands me a .308 with some kinda peep-iron sight on it? looking down it i strongly felt this is somthing id like to try on the savage. It had a peep ring by the action and somewhat ofa stubbly fiber optic pin on the end of the barrel. Was just wondering what some folks might have for expierance with these types of sights.