Parts Is Parts I Reck'n

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by mjkeat, Feb 21, 2012.

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  1. mjkeat

    mjkeat New Member

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    My belief is that quality differs from manufacturer to manufacturer depending on the company's desire. If I'm wrong I want to know.

    I don't care about opinion, I want to see black and white.

    I'm curious as to why certain manufaturers have a horrible reputation for breakage and some have great reputations among hard use shooters if all ARs are the same.
     
  2. fsted2a

    fsted2a Active Member

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    Bubba, I'm with ya on this one after dealing with a lot of crappy parts. Just waiting on you-know-who to put his .02 though.
     

  3. cfraga1978

    cfraga1978 New Member

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    I am with you MJ. I think it all comes down to quality control.
     
  4. Millerlite

    Millerlite New Member

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    agreed - QC FTW. Maybe the price difference is that some companies have more staff to QC parts (translates into overhead costs passed to the consumer). Some companies probably buy the cheapest parts and don't QC cuz they still need to make a profit.

    Some companies have better processes in place/move overhead to either check parts or in the facilitation in making parts to maintain their reputation to the community to which they sale.
     
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  5. Quentin

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    And as far as proving there is a difference in the quality of various ARs and parts, our military has been validating this for 50 years. This requires tedious certification of the parts that go into the M16/M4 for general issue. Only Colt and FN have been awarded the contracts because they have met the requirements. If Vulcan/Hesse/Blackthorne could meet those requirements and undercut on cost I bet by now they'd have been added to the contract, especially in this economy. Same with other makers however this doesn't mean their product necessarily is junk, but it is not "the same as".
     
  6. fsted2a

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    Q,
    I beg to differ on this one. I've seen some crap slip through due to the lowest bidder, and if you had been in some of the non-rapid-deployable units I had been in, you might know what I am talking about. It has gotten better over the last few years, but there are still some lower receivers out there in some Army arms rooms that say Hasbro, Mattel, General Motors, Fisher Price, etc...
    and you know a deer is safe walking in front of them after about 30 rounds. I think this has to do more with them being the lowest bidder on replacement parts on a given year.
     
  7. mjkeat

    mjkeat New Member

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    That's just old stuff that is slowly being cycled out. Everyone should have good equipment but that's just the nature of the beast unfortunately.
     
  8. AgentTikki

    AgentTikki New Member

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    Man what I wouldn't give for a Mattel / Fisher Price / Hasbro stripped lower.......

    wonder what the roll mark looks like :p
     
  9. Flat4sti

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    Put me down for the G.I. Joe Hasbro Stripped lower
     
  10. mjkeat

    mjkeat New Member

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    Let's keep this on topic please as to avoid another debacle.
     
  11. Quentin

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    And that further proves the point that there are varying quality parts, fsted2a. During critical periods other suppliers have been awarded contracts then lost them. Low bid is great on some things but it seems Colt and FN are providing acceptable parts while the others did not.
     
  12. Flat4sti

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    I recently build a spikes lower with a daniel defense lpk with a bcm upper. I was close to buying a complete rifle off the self from my local gun store and it was between a sw mp15, rock river and stag. When I knew that I was really serious about this decision I really started to do research and like always I came over here. people said "hey why don't you build it. that way you can put whatever you want in it." I had not even considered before. So, like everything I take your recommendations and then do my own research. long story short i decided on the bcm/spikes/dd .

    So I was at range today with brother and there were 2 stags and a sw next to me. we get to talking and they guy asked me what brand it was. I told the guys what I did and they looked at me like I was from Mars. Built it? they said. I am not a snob by any means. The one guy said he bought his from the lgs that I picked up the Lower from, and I know how much their stags were about, and I know how much mine was. Now for what I do I am probably not going to be able to tell the difference between the 2, and my ability level is pretty novice. But, I think it is worth the extra couple hundred bucks I spent not to see the same rifle next to me, to have the satisfaction of putting it together myself. plus i was shooting much better than he was.
     
  13. Millerlite

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    MJ,
    didn't mean to imply you have negative feeling toward billt. You and many others have been helpful to me in my builds.

    I have spent as little as 800-900 and as much as 1800 w/optics for my builds, but all have been with quality components.
     
  14. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    Poking your sister's arm in the back seat of the car when you were eight got old real quick. Just imagine how quickly it gets old when you are an adult. I'll leave this open, but please keep it civil.
     
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  15. mjkeat

    mjkeat New Member

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    Well it seems like this topic has reared it's head again so I thought I'd bump this thread.

    So all you "parts are parts" theorists lets hear the parts are just parts regardless of manufacturer arguments and why we should all just get Olys because ARs are all the same.
     
  16. JonM

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    stirring the pot is a no-go item. do not continue this.
     
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