it is clearly you who doesn't understand the concept of private property Mr. RJD. just because a business has public access, doesn't negate the fact it's private property. and those requirements are made simply because it has public access. I also posted several links in past posts that show the definition of trespassing along with the legal and lawful definition of trespassing. you may read them at your pleasure and I think you will see that I completely understand what the legal definitions is. I think it's you who are having the comprehension problem with the definition of what trespassing is. and you are completely incorrect as there doesn't have to be harm or damage done for the act of entering someone else's property for it to be trespassing. if someone drives up onto my property and asks if they can cut my grass, even if I have signs posted, then they aren't trespassing until I say they are trespassing. if I also have a sign that says "No Soliciting Allowed" and "No Trespassing" then that person who drove up to ask to cut my grass is pretty much automatically trespassing. what eludes you is, as the property owner, that person gets to decide exactly when another person is trespassing. and if you have business that is open to the public, and it has a "No Guns" sign, and the owner of that business decided he didn't want to ask you to leave because you were carrying a gun and calls the cops, he can have you arrested for trespassing. I am part owner of a business with my brother. it doesn't currently have any "No Guns Allowed" signage, but I will put some up in manner that are quite easy to see, and i'll invite you to carry past those signs and see if I can't have you arrested for trespassing, by not asking you to leave, but just calling up the local police. care to take the challenge and prove me wrong?