Paintball trigger on a rifle

Discussion in 'Auto & Semi-Auto Discussion' started by bowhunter17, May 15, 2014.

  1. bowhunter17

    bowhunter17 New Member

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    In paintball, these long triggers allow shooters to shoot very fast. A lot of shooters can shoot over 20 shots per second. Most pro games have a max limit of 15 shots per second. Which actually is not that fast for paintball.
    On a paintball gun, the trigger is EXTREMELY light. When it's pulled it contacts a small electronic switch. To shoot fast, two fingers are used to "walk the trigger". It's sort of a rapid alternating of the two fingers.
    It would let people enjoy full auto rates of fire without all the hassle and cost of an actual fully automatic gun. It would also probably be way more accurate than a slide fire stock because the stock wouldn't be sliding around.
    Could this ever be made to use on a gun? Also, would there be a way to make such a light trigger safer?
    To see in a video what I'm talking about, go to YouTube and look up "this is paintball" it was made by a user called "hodge". The players in that video are only shooting 15 balls per second.
     
  2. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    Air actuated is always going to be faster . You have alot more moving parts in the AR than the paintball gun that need to reset. There are plenty of aftermarket triggers out there that reset fast with short throw that most would think are F/A
     

  3. bowhunter17

    bowhunter17 New Member

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    Would an AR be able to handle 900-1500 rounds per minute?
     
  4. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    Sure until the barrel burns out . Lots of heat unlike the paintball gun. I used to play on a sponsored team many years ago . We used compressed air when everyone else was freezing their guns up with Co2 this was long before everyone knew about compressed air advantages. This was way back when automag and autococker were the topend stuff . Im not even sure if they are in business any more . Its been 15 + years since I have played
     
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  5. bowhunter17

    bowhunter17 New Member

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    Couldn't a thick barrel, maybe water cooling system, or just waiting for the barrel to cool down solve that problem?
    Do you still play? If not, you should start again. Paintball has changed so much. The technology is just so much better now. For example, we now have carbon fiber tanks that can hold 4500 psi instead of the metal ones that only hold 3000. They are so much lighter. We even have scented paintballs for some reason.
     
  6. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Of COURSE you can control heat by the use of a heavy barrel.

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    Or cooling fins.
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    Or a water jacket.
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    And you pay a penalty for each of those- added weight, loss of mobility, etc. And in the end, instead of an automatic rifle, you have an anchor. BTW- every try CARRYING enough ammo to feed one of those really fast shooters?

    The M60 had a cyclic rate of 650 rpm of 7.62 NATO. 2 guns per platoon. EVERYBODY carried some ammo for the 60's.
     
  7. bowhunter17

    bowhunter17 New Member

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    I wasn't intending this to be used by military or police. I just thought that it would be cool to have if you didn't want to deal with the government and pay the extra money for a real full auto. It's basically the same reason that someone would want a slide fire stock.
    It'd be fun to have one in .22
     
  8. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    big difference between paintguns and real guns.

    paint guns dont contend with heat, recoil, moving parts that need to reset, spring driven or belt driven feed devices

    when you consider practical probelms of actual combat you dont have a hopper that holds several hundred bullets unless your toting a belt fed. there is little point to spray and pray. full auto isnt really terribly useful on a shoulder fired rifle or carbine. its fun but thats about it.

    full auto is useful on a belt fed as it typically has enough ammo to keep a huge area under steady fire.
     
  9. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i have shot a few fully auto firearms in the past, and yes, they are huge amounts of fun, but IMO pretty much impractical for most uses.

    personally, i have no desire whatsoever to own a fully auto firearm. they would serve no purpose for me that my semi-auto firearms can't function in for me. but also a i fully agree and support any person who wants to won one to have one if they so choose to own one. 2nd amendment!
     
  10. toddchaney

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    Hey, that looks really cool. The paint ball trigger is looking amazing.