P250 or P229 9mm

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by brancher, Sep 19, 2011.

  1. brancher

    brancher New Member

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    Okay, so I just got back from the range. Had my buddy the IPDA shooter with me. Brought my Ruger GP100 and he brought his G19, Sig P229 (both 9mm), and his Kimber .45 ultra cdp.

    Well, first, let me say that I've been looking for an auto. handgun for me for a little while - had a PX4 Storm .40, then my GP100 (which I am keeping), and I shot a Glock 19 .40SW a little while ago. Along the way, I've tried out the Bersa Thun .380. the LCP, and a couple of others (FN5-7, etc). I am definitely looking for a 9mm compact (4" barrel) type.

    Well, after shooting the Glock 19 in .40, I couldn't wait to try out a G19 in 9mm, and today I got my chance. It was....very nice. Pretty accurate, pretty smooth, I controlled it well, all the stuff. Then my bud gave me his Sig P229, all loaded, ready to fire, so I could make a good comparison between the two.

    Oh....My....Gawd...

    Silky smooth, very controllable, little recoil, easy sighting, GREAT trigger pull, and I was hitting inner torso circles at 25 yds after only two magazines. No FTF's, no FTE's, all the right stuff! (disclaimer: the sig did have a Hogue wraparound grip with finger grooves and the Glock did not. That may have made a difference??)....

    So I've made my decision. For me, it HAS to be a Sig 9mm.
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    But a P229? Or a P250? I can't say.

    Can anyone tell me, with authority how these two guns compare to each other? I mean, besides all the literary stuff like 'first modular gun, easy to convert, multiple calibers, polymer frame', etc, what makes the P229 so much more expensive than the P250 (like $400-500 more)?

    If I go with a P250, can I expect the same silky smooth, easy-pull, all-kinds-of-accurate performance? How likely is it to shoot like the 229? Ever?

    Thanks for listening to a too-long-story. Any help from the Sig Experts will be greatly appreciated.

    p.s. I can get a sig P250 kit, including both the compact and subcompact frames, for less than a P229. But I have to wonder how much time I'm gonna spend swapping them out. I may be too lazy for that, you know?? And, tightwad though I am I don't want the price to be THE decision point.
     
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  2. Firearms4ever

    Firearms4ever New Member

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    The Sig P250 is DAO and does not have the decocker like the Sig P229. I don't have experience with the Sig P250, but I do have experience with the Sig P226 and P229. What's your intended purpose for the firearm?
     

  3. VitSports6

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    I have a P250 as well as a P226, I like both for different reasons.
    I carried a P250SC in 9mm for well over a year, It felt right, I had zero issues with the DAO trigger or it eating anything I fed it, I was fairly accurate with it, Enough so that I could hit what I needed, It fits my hand better than my P226, I bought the 2sum and still have the Full size P250, I bought a second FCU(Fire Control Unit) from a company in the Northwest, It came with a takedown lever so I could have 2 P250's for less than $800.
    I like my P226 in .40S&W a lot as well, I think I need a bit more one on one with it, But its more of a fun pistol to have, I don't carry it, I'm not a big person(5'10" 160) and its a fairly good sized pistol, I know the P229 is a little smaller so that may not be an issue.
    The trigger on both are very smooth, The P250 is an even pull, But it does have a little longer reset, One can never go wrong with any of the classic P series.
    My suggestion is try a P250 if you can, Like I said I had no issue with the DAO, I think I actually shoot it better than my XD40sc, But its hard to say.
    I really don't know if I helped or not.
    Best of luck
     
  4. brancher

    brancher New Member

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    Sorry, my original post talked about my using a Glock 19 .40. That was actually a Glock 23 that belonged to a friend. Intended use? Well, I am looking for a viable, carryable platform (and I don't know that a 14-ounce .380 is a viable platform for me) that is useful on my person or car (kinda hard to tote my GP 100 .357 4" without being stupidly obvious -- besides that's the nightstand gun), as well as big enough for target practice at ranges, etc. I really like shooting my GP but am interested in going to an auto. I've actually been through the gamut with trying out ultra carry's, slightly larger carry's, fat cartridges, short cartridges, looking at penetration and ballistic data for everything from a .32 to a .45 acp, reading a bunch of forums (and trying to figure out who actually knows what they're talking about), and I've come up with the following: I want a 9mm. I'd love to have an ultra carry, but I have found a 3.5" to 4" barrel to be comfortable (for now). I want a gun that is instinctive enough and ergonomic enough to really enjoy shooting. I've actually thought about picking up a snubbie, but I really like the flexibility (and capacity and speed) of the semiautos.

    I've seen expensive guns get tied up with FTE's and FTF's just like cheap guns, so I know that money doesn't always buy the best. I like the Browning Hi-Power (although I have never shot one and they are all kinds of heavy). I liked my Beretta .40 but I liked the Glock 23 better. I Liked the Glock 19 but the Sig just begs me to shoot it.

    In short, I want a powerful, carryable, no-recoil, cheap ammo, light, inexpensive weapon that's invisible and never jams, misses, or breaks. And I want it to go up in value after I get it. ;>)

    VitSports6, I like your idea, and I am frankly sort of surprised that you speak so highly of the P250. No particular reason, I just figured a die-hard sig fan would be dubious about the polymer/ modular stuff. DAO doesn't bother me in the least (c'mon, I tug on a flippin' GP100 for goodness sakes).... Maybe I'll find a P250 rental somewhere and try to compare the two. I'll have to re-read your post for more insight about your upgrades/alts. Thanks.
     
  5. sweeper22

    sweeper22 New Member

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    If the price doesn't deter you, look into a these compacts from Sig, all available in 9mm:
    P228/P229 (they're pretty much the same gun) or P239 (sort of a light, slim, single stack version of the aforementioned pair)
    The older service Sig P6 is also worth a look for about $400

    When it comes to plastic Sigs, I prefer the P2022 to the P250...but haven't been impressed enough with either to actually purchase one. I really like the triggers on the Springfield XD/XDm series best when it comes to polymer.
     
  6. VitSports6

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    I seem to like my old SP2340 as well.
    I am still working with my XD, Going from a DAO to the XD is a little different.
    I also agree on a P6, Maybe someday I will look into one of them as well.
     
  7. brancher

    brancher New Member

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    Thanks. I'm gonna rent a p239 at the range this weekend to discern the difference between that and a p229 if I can. I'll let you guys know. Meanwhile, looks like I can get a non-SAS for not too much.
     
  8. brancher

    brancher New Member

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    Update


    Well, after doing the range trips, shooting over 200 rounds through 8 different 9mm guns (the only thing missing was an XD), I found the following:

    1. The S&W M&P 9 is almost as smooth and nice as the Sig P229.
    2. The Sig P239 is almost as sweet at teh 229. In fact it is just as sweet, but a shorter barrel will require a tad more attention on my part.
    3. I still hate the LC9.
    4. The dark horse surprise is (drum roll...) the FNP9. No kidding. Yeah I know it's longer than I originally suggested, and I now it's not the 'big brand' but omg, it is a VERY sweet gun - every bit as nice as the Sig p229 - with smooth pull, smooth slide, VERY accurate, low recoil, all the stuff.

    Did I mention cheaper?

    So I'm thinking, 'I wish they had a shorter platform..." and lo and behold, there IS (or was) an FNP9-m, with a slightly shorter barrel and slightly shorter grip. They don't make it anymore but there are a few still out there NIB.

    And I found one. 3.79" barrel, 15 rnd capacity, 3-dots, sig sights, NIB, 3 mags, decocker, lock, never fired.

    And almost $300 less than the Sig P239.

    And it got here today. :)

    And I have broken it down, and cleaned it and lubed it and I cannot wait to get it out on the range.

    I am very stoked.

    Too bad I have this whole job thing going on....

    (applause please).

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  9. knfxda

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    Great buy! And let me be the first to say, without pictures, it didn't happen! And we expect a range report.

    Thumbs up!

    Sent from my iPhone using FirearmsTalk
     
  10. brancher

    brancher New Member

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    Yeah, will do (as soon as I can break away to the range that is....).
     
  11. VitSports6

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    Very nice, Congrats!
     
  12. brancher

    brancher New Member

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    Put about 125 rnds thru today - combination of PMC 115's and WWB 115's. My Midway shipment hasn't gotten here yet.

    1st mag was 10- rnds of PMC. Flawlss, smooth, no probs with feed or eject.
    2nd Mag was wwb 115's. 3rd rnd FTF. 5th rnd ftf. Pulled mag, checked for goop or anything inside nothing. reloaded the cartridges, no problems.
    After that, the next 11 magazines went flawlessly. No errors in feeding, no eject errors, no.

    And very, very accurate (no pics because I shared targets with my GP100 .357 - pics next time if hte Ruger doesn't beg me to take it out.
    :-D

    Anyway, this guns is extremely smooth, and as I said, more accurate than me. 3-4" groups at 21 ft, 6-8" groups at 35 ft, ctr of mass easily (as well as head shots) at 45 and 60 feet. In fact, after I got used to the sighting, it was more on point than my GP100 (and the GP100 is a tack driver).

    Thoughts coming away from the range with this:
    1. Gun is easily concealed. I wanted a 9, didn't want one of those 'wonder nines', need some purchase but also need
    packability. This gun has both. At least for me.
    2. For awhile, I couldn't get hte magzine to load unless the slide was all the way back. Baffling to say the least! I tried and tried, but to no avail. Then I (a-hah!) discovered that when the slide was closed and I inserted the mag, my forefinger was inadvertently on the AMBIDEXTEROUS MAG RELEASE (how stupid can one person get??). You can mov the mag release to the other side if you want and that side (the non-levered side) has a little depressable button. And if it''s pushed in, the can't engage. Anyway, that is gonna be a point of interest for me. Keep the forefinger OFF the AMBi side.
    3. My pinky. What to do with it? Maybe slip an M&P foot on the mag? Who knows. I may put a Hogue sleeve on it to provide a tad more grip without that pinky, which just kind of hangs around down by the mag foot. BuT: the gun is so smooth and recoil so manageable, that I'm not terribly concerned.
    4. Trigger: Still getting used to it. If I was a betting man, I'd say the pull is a mm or so longer than I want. I need to either get used to it, or see if I can do something about it.
    5. Trigger: three positions -- 1st is fully closed, 2nd is that little decocker position and 3rd is single action position. single position is extremely smooth and easy, but fully closed is harder than I expected. Don't know the pull weight.


    I think it is a keeper for sure (probably). Best shooter for its size and price I've found so far. Long term? I dunno, I've been reading forum posts where some folks trash the heck outta the FNP series.

    sc
     
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