Our troops need to carry Glocks

Discussion in 'Glock Forum' started by GlockUSA, Jan 16, 2012.

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  1. GlockUSA

    GlockUSA New Member

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    That's right I said it, we need a more dependable new age side arm for this desert and urban combat. I think the berreta and the 1911 need to be laid to rest and we need to be using a better fire arm for the situation. War is very dirty and there is no time to field strip a side arm when you need it. If your reaching for your side arm and not your primary time is already up being my point. I say issue G17s to all our troops in OD and call it better. The truth is the m9 or 92f or fs is a good gun and I'm not knocking any firearm the armed forces use. I am simply stating that if we are gonna modernize our forces armor and much more then we need to have a modern pistol capable of firing in wet dirty rusty sandy frozen conditions. When it comes down to it would you bet your life on your m9 if it was wet and full of sand because of whatever circumstances you may be in. Because I sure wont. Ok give me your thoughts and rants..... Go
     
  2. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    How many profiles do you have here?
     

  3. MrWray

    MrWray New Member

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    Did you just say put the 1911 to rest? That is pure Blasphemy!
     
  4. MrWray

    MrWray New Member

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    And if the military needs to change anything about the sidearm, its caliber more then the model of weapon.switching it from a beretta 9mm to a glock 9mm wont make any difference.
     
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  5. Magnum27

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    I agree. I think the Glock 17 is a great gun but if I was military or LEO I would want a .40 or larger.
     
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  6. MrWray

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    The military loves external hammers and external safties, what about a sig saur .357sig? It would be a big improvement in ballistics and the ammo weight would virtually be the same. I carried a G31 as a LEO,i love the .357sig round
     
  7. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    I think they should all carry Medusa's, but thats just me... ;)

    Seriously... I still gotta go with the 1911, in all its years of service, its been everywhere, ive never heard of any solders complaining... It was in the cold of Germany and Russia.. the sand and water of the Pacific, the deserts of Africa... And is still the most copied pistol...

    How are you suppose to pistol whip someone with a plastic Glock?
     
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  8. MrWray

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    That wouldnt be a bad option,but capacity and speed loaders would be the issue
     
  9. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    The GLOCK is a great gun, but I have to agree, the ammo is the issue. I'm not talking 9mm in general, but the ammo issued specifically. It sucks.

    I won't go into a beretta vs 1911 (because I've never had the pleasure of shooting the 1911), but I will say this, I've heard and seen no or extremely few complains about the Beretta's reliability that weren't directly user related.

    If we switch to another "better" gun, but keep the same ammo, we'll just be spinning our wheels and not going anywhere.
     
  10. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I've had the pleasure of shooting a Springfield Armory 1911. Unfortunately, I was too 'gun green' to realize what I had in my hands. :( I hope to have the chance to shoot one again.
     
  11. ROENIGK

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    The colt 1911 is the most tried and tested semi-automatic pistol there is to day and it hasn't changed much in 101 years.
     
  12. willfully armed

    willfully armed New Member

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    Now Trip, you aren't insinuating that this here feller is our old friend GLOCK17OD?

    I was going to suggest the od g17e just to be slick, but he did it in his OP.
     
  13. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Lol, not specifically, but it seems that there have been a few new users with similar names, avatars, and especially fanboy posts such as this (and yeah, GLOCK17OD came to mind immediately), but on top of that, none of these new users are ever signed on at the same time! No biggie if its just two, but I think there are around 5 fitting that profile. Curiouser and curiouser.
     
  14. GlockUSA

    GlockUSA New Member

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    This is my first and only account and I am just stating an opinion men. I don't care who gets mad or not but this is just a cell phone app to me that I can talk about guns on. I like the 9mm and I like the od green or a sand color would be tight. I'm just not liking a .45 with 8 rounds when I could be using a smaller faster caliber with a much higher fighting capacity. Plus the gear and weight if the gun. I mean its a valid point right?
     
  15. Artyom

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    I tend to lean toward the Browning HP design and the Beretta line. Hell if they could give them HK USPs that's be an amazing sidearm.
     
  16. NvRbanArms

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    I think the the soldiers should get to choose what they want to use. Hell, they r putting their life on the line. A really thin line that it be. So why not let them choose from a select few. Like Glock, 1911, sig, beretta, Hk, Springfield. I think they would much appreciate that more. Oh and def a .40 or .45. Possibly .357sig. I wouldn't go into Mideast with a 9mm. Screw that. But I guess to our country lives come a dime a dozen huh, and ammo is more expensive than that. Just my 2cnts
     
  17. unclebear

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    I don't like glocks at all hate them, but I tend agree with a change in what rounds they use the 9mm is great for some things but I still think a 40 plus sized round would do the job better. As my gramps us to say if you have to use your side arm something or someone f**ked up... I tend to agree, I would rather have 8 rounds of something that puts someone down in one or two rounds then 18 or something that might take 4 or more. I don't like glocks because of the polymer frame that they use on the weapon I prefer steel or at least heavy duty aluminum because if you ever get to the point where I have to use my weapon as a melee weapon I want something with the extra weight.
     
  18. pfev1980

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    You really need to understand the history of why we carry pistols to combat and how often one is discharged there to make this decision. Pistols were originally meant for officers to hold so they could command and were most often used on deserters initially. Today they are given to basically the same people, officers, SNCOs and people it would be impractical to give a rifle to. I've carried a pistol to combat twice in a leadership position and was never concerned. At this point, you give it to guys who dont have a use for a rifle just because you don't want to give him nothing. In places where close combat is likely and pistol rounds might count such special forces, they aren't carrying an M9. All that being said I'm confident I can kill a man at the same or longer distance with my M9 as I could with my 1911.

    Glocks would be bad choice for the military I think because of the range of experience we have using. Everyday in the military someone picks up a pistol for the first time. I think if that pistol was a glock rather than an M9 negligent discharges would increase exponentially. The Glock is a fine pistol and it's lack of an external safety is great for police officers whose life rests solely on that pistol. In the case of the military soldier though, he's typically surrounded by rifles who engage the enemy between 50-200 yards on a regular day. Plenty of time to "click off safe".

    The last thing I'll mention is the price of ammunition. Increasing the cost of rounds by even a dollar a box would be devastating to a military budget and would be compensated by a reduction in training. Trust me, no one wants that.
     
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  20. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    Oh brother... here we go again. Fair warning, if this turns into fanboys saying my [insert gun here] is better than your [insert gun here], this will get closed.
     
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