Ordered a new Pieta 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Revolver

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  1. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    I am going to be in real deep kimchi when the wife finds out on this new toy. Wife does not like Black powder; however, will inform that this is a revolver. I might have to order another revolver for myself.

    Ordered from Cabelas:

    F.LLI Pieta 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Revolver (Full Size). Once I get the package in and the winds are calm (morning time); reason is the range is out in the open and no matter the wind has a nasty effect.
     
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  2. Walley

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    I have two of the of the 1851s and love them. They are a bit difficult to disassemble at first but with use it becomes easier. Accurate out to twenty-five yards and a real blast to shoot. Try wonder seals to eliminate chain fires rather than Crisco or lard. Less messy and helps keep the gun cleaner. I know that you will enjoy your new toy but warn you one cap and ball revolver is never enough. Got my first one as a gift and now own seven. Good luck and have fun with your new investment.
     

  3. Hawg

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    That revolver has a brass frame so keep powder charges under 20 grains. Heavy loads will stretch the frame. When you disassemble it take note of how far the barrel wedge protrudes on right side and reinstall it to that depth. It will most likely be flush or close to it. Push it in too deep and it will close the barrel cylinder gap too much even to the point of rubbing.
     
  4. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    Thanks for the posts, pistol 1 came in along with the (smokeless powder) - just kidding, picked up 1 lb of Pyrodex P FFFg and 1000 #11 caps. The rest of the goods are coming end of the month.
     
  5. CA357

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    Congratulations. Shooting the Sacred Black is an awesome experience.
     
  6. orangello

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    Post us some pics when you get to try it out. I love my lil single shot sidelock pistol, but haven't yet found a BP revolver to get. I think i want a Remington-type reproduction.
     
  7. stelliott80

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    I also have a Pietta, but the 1858 Army model. Man, what fun! I have excellent luck using Bore Butter as a lubricant and the Pyrodex pellets (cuts out the measuring powder step and so far, has worked very well for me). My dad has two of the 1851s; ditto what was said above about being careful when reinstalling the barrel lug. I over-seated it once and had a hell of a time getting it back out!

    Have fun!
     

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  8. Hawg

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    You're gonna want a steel frame in the original navy caliber of .36 and a Remington Army

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    And a 60 Colt Army


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    And well you get the idea :D
     
  9. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    Will do, once the remaining good arrive in the mail. I am glad it has not arrived already, the weather (wind) is just plain nasty at the range.
     
  10. Scratchammo

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    Screws

    I used to have one. Make sure your screws don't loosen themselves as the pistol is fired. I'm not sure if that's an issue anymore with recent production but it's something to check for.
     
  11. Hawg

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    If they do a little blue loctite will fix that. Do not use red it will take heat to removed them if you do.
     
  12. hcso617

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    Big I was doing a little recon in the CFO's closet and found I will be getting one for Christmas, any update?
     
  13. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    I got all the goodies in, just need the time to shoot. The boss in charge found it! Next range time, I will take both new pistols for some fun! Last time, I went to the range, the wind was nasty, was not worth it on the firing line!

    I found locally the blackpowder FFFg cheaper, the percussion caps is a trade off.
     
  14. richardnorton

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    Hey guys I have been told by much older and much wiser men to steer clear of pyrodex, claiming it has something in it called percets (sp) that are harder on your gun and much dirtier than black powder any day. If you must ue soeting other than real black power use te 777, bu Ibuy my bp on the net, I just like the way it smells. That said I have one of Cabela's Pietta '51 pistols in .44 with the brass frame and a 5 1/2" bbl, I like the 5 1/2" bbl and have two '60 Colts and two '58 Remengton pistols that I love to shoot. The best one I own are a pair of Ruger old army .45's, but even though they shoot the bst they both have the 7 1/2" bbl, guess I will just have to breakdown and get a pair of the newer old army pistols with the shorter bbls. You will like the '51 b cap and ball, just always clean it good wth soap and water after each time you shoot.
     
  15. Hawg

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    Not true. I've been shooting bp since 1969 and now I use Pyro exclusively and have for years. It's no harder or worse than real bp. I live in the humid South and I left a 58 Remington uncleaned once just to see how long it would take to rust. I finally cleaned it after nine days with no rust or corrosion. 777 is to finicky to compression and gives inconsistent results.
     
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  16. dcm

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    to the op good choice on the 1851, got one not too long ago as a gift, they are lots of fun. Like others have mentioned its a brass frame so follow the info sheets you get with the gun and don't exceed a 25 grain load of traditional bp (or its equivelant in substitute). In response to others, real bp is hard for me to find so I shoot pyrodex and it works great for me. Ive found triple7 to be temperamental and pyrodex measures the same as bp (in volume) so pyrodex makes things easier. Anyway have fun with the new toy. Oh and the first thing you should look into getting is a powder flask with a measurement nozzle, it makes things a lot easier at the range. Best of luck
     
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  17. Scratchammo

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    There are a lot of black powder recipes on the Internet. My preference is sulfur free due to its price & corrosive nature. Making it would be fun & a lot cheaper than pyrodex.
     
  18. Durangokid

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    Black Powder and soft lead will shoot with the best of the 6 guns. This is a 1960s vintage Euro-Arms Rogers & Spencer target revolver. This was fired from sand bags at 25 yds.

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  19. Scratchammo

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    I'm not duelling against you.
     
  20. Durangokid

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    Scratchammo. The R&S revolvers were the last of the cap & ball handguns of the Civil War. I don't think any them made it into service. They went to Bannermans as surplus around 1900. These guns had all the bugs worked out for the most part. They did not make a target revolver. The gun shoots a .457 ball and has a chamfered chamber for seating. The ramer lock is like the ROA. In fact Ruger used the R&S improvements to come up with the ROA. This is stated by Ruger in the history of the ROA. The chambers are deep and will take about the same load as the ROA. I like my ROA but it has nothing on the R&S.

    DK