Opinions on 3 possibilities for my first handgun?

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  1. jjp

    jjp New Member

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    I don't know much about handgun manufacturers or models. I'm looking to get my first handgun and I managed to narrow it down to 3 possible choices:

    -Sig P250 (compact, .45 ACP)
    -Glock 21
    -Glock 30

    I practiced a little with a .45 ACP handgun and I thought the caliber would be fine. I haven't fired the ones above, but I did handle them for a minute, and they feel pretty good in my hand. I'm planning to use it for concealed carry. Can anyone give me some feedback on their experiences with these? Are there any others I should be looking at instead?

    Also, I don't know anything about holsters or positioning. Does anyone have a suggestion about that? I know it will depend on my personal comfort a lot, but maybe someone can suggest a brand of holster or possible positions.

    Thanks.
     
  2. Glockmaniac

    Glockmaniac New Member

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    the p250 is not in the same price range. mmmhéhéhé, in the list, if i had the choice between 2 ugly guns and a nicer one, i would pick the nicer one..that doesn't mean more reliability.

    honestly,for a first hangun, i would pick any glock over the sig....not that the sig is crap, it's the opposite actually,but nicer doesn't mean better in my view.

    a glock is near half the price (if you get a good deal) and very simple for field stripping and very reliable as any glocks.
     

  3. stalkingbear

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    Initial fit is very important, but going to a range where you can actually shoot the different guns is extremely important too-perhaps even more so. Natural "pointability" is 1 of the top criteria in fit. That's where when you hold the handgun in your hand pointed at the target, it points "where you look. Now that you have narrowed it down some, try shooting them at the range. This will ultimately determine your selection when you see how they shoot for YOU.

    Holster choice all depends on the size of handgun you'll be carrying, the temperatures, and your usual style/mode of dress. It's something that MAY require even more selection process than the handgun itself. Sometimes you might have more than 1 single type of carry depending (again) on your style of dress mode. Most people that's serious about CCW will eventually wind up with more than 1 holster anyway. I suggest you start out with a good IWB (inside waistband) holster. Don't scrimp on quality with holsters. You also have to choose retention level in holster. I'd recommend you stay away from the top level of retention levels as those are meant for duty open carry with LOTS of practice.
     
  4. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    I would agree with Bear.

    Choosing a holster is going to be harder than choosing the weapon itself, because you won't know if it truly works for you, until you put the weapon on and wear it for a day or three.

    You will find that most of our members here will have 5 or maybe 10 different types of holsters for their primary piece, and that is because of different dress styles and different conditions of carry.

    I have about 10 holsters for my 1911. And that is having sold some ones that I didn't like after I tried them out.

    We can give you some names of some good companies to try out, but until you select your weapon, and we know what kind of carry you are looking at doing ( shoulder rig, IWB, belt rig, tummy band ) it's going to be impossible to make a recommendation.

    Good luck.

    JD
     
  5. CHLChris

    CHLChris New Member

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    It seems that handguns are almost like holsters in this fact: each one has its place and is useful in a different setting.

    If I was committed to .45ACP, I would start with the Glock 21 (out of your 3 choices). It is bigger, of course, and so not quite as well suited for carry purposes. But it would be great for taking to the range and shooting it a LOT. For your first handgun, really consider it to be a range gun that you might happen to carry sometimes.

    But very soon you'll want to purchase a second handgun that you can carry more easily and comfortably. From your list, that may be the G30, but many more weapons should probably make that list for an EDC in .45ACP.
     
  6. WDB

    WDB New Member

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    Before you settle on the pistols listed shoot a S&W M&P 45. After you chose the pistol that fits you the best ask about holsters. As expressed most will buy a few until they finds what fits them best. Much will depend on your carry style/dress.

    Good luck and let us know what you decide to purchase.
     
  7. SGT-MILLER

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    The Glock 30 would be the most practical choice of the the three listed. I'm not a big fan of Glocks, but that model is a powerhouse and is reliable. You can't go wrong with 10 rounds of .45 ACP in a nice compact (and still relatively comfortable) package.
     
  8. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    If your caliber choice is .45 ACP and you are not including or even looking at a 1911 you are doing yourself a great disservice!

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  9. diggsbakes

    diggsbakes New Member

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    I'd have to agree. The 1911 is a beautiful gun to shoot (and look at). Personally, I like Springfield's. I've shot some of their 1911's and loved them and own some from their XD line (which I also can't believe is not in your list). The Glock and Springfield XD are arguably the most reliable semi's on the market (maybe ever) and should definately be considered. But if you want a .45 check out some 1911's, every gun lover must have at least a couple and in the price range you gave, you got options.

    I like Glocks, but I LOVE XDs. I also love 1911's but they do have a capacity limitation that some shy away from.


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  10. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    “It has never been clear to me why increased magazine capacity in a defensive pistol is particularly choice. The bigger the magazine the bigger the gun, and the bigger the gun the harder it is to get hold of for people with small hands. And what, pray, does one need all those rounds for? How many lethal antagonists do you think you are going to be able to handle? Once when Bruce Nelson was asked by a suspect if the thirteen-round magazine in the P35 was not a big advantage, Bruce's answer was, "Well, yes, if you plan to miss a lot." The highest score I know of at this time achieved by one man against a group of armed adversaries was recorded in (of all places) the Ivory Coast! There, some years ago, a graduate student of mine laid out five goblins, with four dead and one totaled for the hospital. Col. Jeff Cooper
     
  11. bobbyb13

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    Never understood.

    I just don't understand the need or whatever for a 30 round super duper pooper farter. I like nearly all of them, I love my old Hi-Power. BUT If I can't get the job done with 8 rounds of .45 in a 1911. I am not going to get it done with 13 out of the Browning. Many speak out the 1911 being an old design. What is old about getting it right the first time. Cane, and JD got me started on the 1911, wish I had done it many years sooner.
     
  12. SGT-MILLER

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    There are no people out there, regardless of expertise or qualifications, that can accurately predict the time, location, number of hostiles, and nature of a gunfight (amongst other things).
     
  13. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Oh really?? NO ONE?? :eek:
     

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  14. IGETEVEN

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    Well, I do know of a branch of the military called the U.S. Air force, Sgt. Miller, that uses those armed Predator Drones, equipped with CCVM and they are very accurate and predictable over there in the sandbox at those very things, and with stealth........taking all threats out with a missile. ;)

    But your statement is correct, that none of us have those types of capabilities in a handgun confrontation, on our own, for sure. :)

    Jack
     
  15. diggsbakes

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    Good point. Also I have never witnessed a malfunction from any of my own or any of my range buddies Glocks or XDs, and that would amount to 10's of thousands of rounds. I can't say that for the 1911. I know there are threads from guys that have had trouble with the XD, but it seems it's only the .40 cal XDM you hear about.

    I personally carry revolvers with 2-3 speedloaders. With practice you can get pretty fast at reloading, darn close or just as fast to that of a magazine replacement. Also you are throwing some serious firepower from an accurate gun (3" barrel minimum).

    Semis have their place too, just in case you have to throw 12+ rounds at a target, but my primary comfort lies with wheelguns.
     
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  16. SGT-MILLER

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    IGETEVEN posted:
    We call em flying lawnmowers. :)
     
  17. Lowrider

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    Of your three choices, I would go Glock 30. I carry a 36. Fewer rounds, but lighter and smaller.
     
  18. Viking

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    Over the past 30 years I've owned many weapons, single and double action wheel guns, and autos of various calibers. Right now I own an XDm in 40 S&W, Stoeger in 40 S&W (which I use for ccw), Bersa mod.83 in .380, ss Ruger Redhawk 44 mag which I've owned for over 20 years and has put more venison in the freezer than my rifles, Charter Arms 44 Bulldog, and a MkII Ruger 22. My favorite all time weapon - 1911 A1, if 1911's were not so spendy and I hadn't already settled on 40 S&W for my most usable shtf caliber I would get a high quality 1911, probably Springfield considering their quality and service.
     
  19. jjp

    jjp New Member

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    Thanks for all the feedback. I looked into the Springfield XD and it looks nice, but I've never seen it in person.

    Some of the one's I've looked at cost more than I can spend right now. I'm a grad student so some cost more than I make in a month!
     
  20. diggsbakes

    diggsbakes New Member

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    If you haven't checked into the XD, you should. Also why is the .45 your caliber of choice? It's great, but if you can't afford a 1911, you should look into the .40 S&W if you're going to go in the direction of Glock, Springfield, Sig, etc. Its a good cartridge and it's getting cheaper and more available. (at least here)