open carry

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by jjfuller1, Feb 5, 2013.

  1. jjfuller1

    jjfuller1 New Member

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    my brother and i got to talking the other night. and im just not sure what the law states.

    is open carry of a long firearm, such as a slung AR legal in NYS?

    i know there are a lot of recent changes. and i also know that you need a permit to carry a pistol. however, i dont see much in the regards of open carring a long gun. any help or links would be greatly apriecated.
     
  2. GeneralPatton

    GeneralPatton New Member

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    Well I'm not familiar with NYS, but I do know in GA in order to open carry you have to have a conceal carry license.
     

  3. texaswoodworker

    texaswoodworker New Member

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    Not sure what the law for that is. Do one of you plan on open carrying an AR?
     
  4. jjfuller1

    jjfuller1 New Member

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    damn skippy if its legal.
     
  5. hockeyjr1

    hockeyjr1 New Member

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    Yes it is legal... No law that says you can't unless in a car.. Then u r in trouble...

    Now... The local pd would prob hit you with a disturbing the peace charge just to put u in jail and prob keep your gun forever...

    My advice.. Don't try it, just not worth it..
     
  6. gmwilkes

    gmwilkes New Member

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    How would that be disturbing the peace? No action to incite violence or anything else. And plus its a symbol of freedom of speech. Exercising your right to open carry should not in any way violate laws unless you go to the "forbidden zones"
     
  7. kbd512

    kbd512 Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I agree with the principle of being permitted to carry what you are legally permitted to carry but I also think that whether gun owners like it or not the general public has a lot of fear of weapons because of the media's prosecution of their agenda to stigmatize the lawful ownership and use of weapons.

    I would like to help our cause rather than hurt it by not carrying weapons to make statements. Whether it becomes legal in Texas or not, I will always choose to conceal a weapon rather than permit all the world to see it. Like it or not, openly carrying weapons gets a lot of attention from the sort of people I'd rather not know that I have a weapon, namely ignorant and scared adult-children and criminals.

    I don't carry, train with, or use weapons to make statements. I carry a firearm because I realize that there are people out there who would just as soon kill you as look at you and I would like to continue living in spite of criminals and criminally insane people.

    I really like having my AR-15 and want to continue to be permitted to own and use it. So, as much as I agree with the idea of being permitted to exercise my freedoms, I choose to restrain myself with respect to making statements with the carrying or use of my firearms.
     
  8. GeneralPatton

    GeneralPatton New Member

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    Because most of the people in the country these days are *****whipped liberals who fear anything and everything that 1) don't have 2) don't want anyone else to have 3) can put them at some sort of disadvantage solely based on the fact that they are scared to own one

    Given their "fear" they call the cops everytime they see someone doing something they consider "abnormal" and thus the uneducated of the police departments don't know the law and assume you can't do such. The ensuing argument between you and the officer turns into a disruption of the peace and you get screwed for doing something perfectly legal because of some whineyassedbitch that saw you. It happens more often than you think.
     
  9. DrumJunkie

    DrumJunkie New Member

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    These days people see an evil black rifle and they will think you're the next school sensation. All LEO would need is to say someone called and probably someone will and you have disturbed their peace. It's not right, but it's a pretty simple truth.
     
  10. jjfuller1

    jjfuller1 New Member

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    Good points. So what would happen if I carried my bolt, or muzzy??
     
  11. texaswoodworker

    texaswoodworker New Member

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    Maybe nothing. Maybe a lot. They may just think your a hunter or something, or they may think you are the next Charles Whitman.
     
  12. AgentTikki

    AgentTikki New Member

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    IF YOU DO, just make sure you have a video camera, and have a friend videotape it to from the sidelines. Cops seems so much more civil when they are on camera.
     
  13. GeneralPatton

    GeneralPatton New Member

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    Unless they've seen Full Metal Jacket, I bet half the people on here and 90% of the people in the world don't know who Whitman was anymore.
     
  14. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Please. don't carry a gun to "make a statement."

    You may be technically within your legal rights, but we'll all pay the price for it.
     
  15. partdeux

    partdeux Well-Known Member

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    Just to make a statement doesn't do much for the cause. Carry on with your business.

    Carefully learn the state law.
     
  16. Quentin

    Quentin New Member

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    I watch FMJ about once a year, never get tired of it. Hell, I think I met half those characters in basic or 'Nam, including Whitman! :D
     
  17. AR10

    AR10 New Member

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    Why would you want to?

    Bad idea, attracting attention to gun owners.

    Guns are little like penises. Everybody has one, or wants to cuddle with someone that does have one, but no one wants to see the darn things in the mall.
     
  18. Quentin

    Quentin New Member

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    Well said, AR10! That's signature material... :D
     
  19. polyman69

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    I dont know how many of you are from or live in Louisiana but there open carry is legal and common place ESPECIALLY in and around New Orleans. The only time you need a permit is if you conceal, as long as it is visible, no harm no foul. Also you can have a loaded cocked and locked 1911 on the dash and all though stupid, totally lawful.
    The law says your vehicle is an extension of your home and therefore covered by the castle doctrine. During traffic stops I was asked to leave my sidearm on the seat while my lisc. Was ran and a speeding violation issued. Far cry from where I live now . Been here a little over a year and still not used to it. I've been told they have one of those dumbass 2 or 3 step laws , havent looked it up (no need to carry a gun in the thriving metropolis of Andrews In.) But it's crazy how the gun laws differ from one state to another.
     
  20. partdeux

    partdeux Well-Known Member

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    Come to MI, where most conceal instructors get the law wrong... and even my personal attorney who is a nearby communities prosecutor missed an extremely critical point of law. MI laws are SCREWY