Open carry stories

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by KingGlamis, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. KingGlamis

    KingGlamis New Member

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    Wife and I almost always open carry here in Arizona because it's legal and we prefer it over concealed carry. We have a few stories of interactions with others in the public but would also love hearing stories from others here.

    Two stories from this past weekend:

    Our clothes dryer broke and we don't have the new one yet so we decided to go to the laundrymat, something neither of us had done in 15+ years. We were both open carrying and just minding our own business. The guy that was working at the laundrymat was a younger guy and he asked us both what model guns we had. Clearly he was on our side. As we were leaving the worker mentions to my wife that one of the other patrons "reported us" to him, telling him we had guns. He said he told her it was completely legal and asked if we had threatened her. She said no, we had not threatened her, she just didn't like it. He responded that we were 100% within the law and there is nothing he would do about it.

    Later that same day we went into a furniture store shopping for couches. One of the salesmen walks up to us and says "Thank you for exercising your 2nd Amendment Rights."

    I take the good and bad and roll with it because as long as I am following the law and I never intentionally bother anyone else then I will open carry anywhere it is legal.

    I would also like to add that we have encountered many law enforcement officers while open carrying and none of them have said a word to us. I chalk that up to us acting normal and minding our own business. Attitude, or lack thereof, goes a long way.
     
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  2. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    I open carry and have very few stories. Those I do, are short and positive.

    One... Was in line at a gas station to make a purchase, and talking to a lady in line too. After a few moments she says... "Oh.. I thought that was a cell phone..." Conversation continued unabated. (by the way, I carry a full size 1911. Talk about oblivious!)

    In another gas station (seems I spend a lot of time in gas stations...) while on duty (which means I wasn't carrying, part of my employment contract) ran into a guy who was OC'ing. This was right after arguing here on the forum, the merits, or morality I guess, of OC. I stopped the guy, and said hey... "Does anyone ever give you any trouble for carrying that? Do you ever wonder if you'll be targeted by a super secret sharpeyed special agent bad guy with the tactical abilities of a Navy SEAL?" He... laughed... his... ass... off.... And now we're friends on facebook! He went on to explain that he only really open carries when scouting his hunting spot for the year. His biggest self defense concern in this area is the same as mine: wildlife.

    Beyond that... Open Carry in West Monroe Louisiana and surrounding areas, is a non issue.
     

  3. hardluk1

    hardluk1 Active Member

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    Huummm 26 years of CC'n and no stories.
     
  4. MoHawk

    MoHawk New Member

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    I was open carrying on my motorcycle one day and was stopped for it. The police insisted I slide my gun across the pavement. I refused. No way was I going to mess up my brand new XD45c. Finally, I convinced them to let me crab walk away from it. Turns out, it was just a Terry stop and the cops were complete morons.


    This is why I prefer CC
     
  5. seancslaughter

    seancslaughter New Member

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    I would have sued the shiz outta them for that. I would have tore them up in court because a terry frisk can only be used if they believe a crime has taken place, is taking place, or is going to take place. I would have owned that department for several infringements on Constitutional Rights namely the 2nd, the 4th and the 14th amendments.
     
  6. MoHawk

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    And if I knew then, what I know now, I would have too....
     
  7. partdeux

    partdeux Well-Known Member

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    One store, guy was very interested in my XDMc as he was considering one.

    Another store, guy came up and shook my hand congratulated me on exercising my right to carry.

    Shooting range/gun store was advised I have to cover the pistol or leave the store... WTF?
     
  8. John_Deer

    John_Deer New Member

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    The LGS/range made their position clear. I wouldn't spend a penny in that shop after being told to cover my weapon in a gun shop/range.
     
  9. KingGlamis

    KingGlamis New Member

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    All of my local gun stores allow open carry and of course CC, but the ranges here require that the gun be unloaded with no magazine. It is kind of strange that the range said you have to "cover" it. What is the purpose of that? :confused:
     
  10. jimogden1984

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    My best guess would be to keep people from running drills and practicing their draw with loaded weapons.

    Sent from my SCH-I545 using Firearms Talk mobile app
     
  11. partdeux

    partdeux Well-Known Member

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    This particular range is owned by a couple of police officers, not sure if they are current active duty or not. Many LEO do not believe in OC. It was the first and last time I stepped foot in that range/store, which kinda sucks as it's close to my Father in Laws house and I take him shooting from time to time.

    Former Co-Worker's brother works for a local dept. He had told my co-worker that OC was not permitted in their city. Michigan Open Carry leadership contacted the chief of that city, who promised that he would once again pass the message down to his officers that OC was legal. No names were mentioned, and I'm realizing as I type this I never circled back to see if the chief followed through.
     
  12. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    And your understanding of a Terry stop is not accurate.
     
  13. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Some will dog me for this, but I live/work in a State where OC is not legal. In places like Arizona where it is legal and has been, there should be no problem. People have been around it for many years and are "used" to it. The main problem you will encounter is from the Kali type imports who do not have a clue.

    Going from no OC to OC in a State is difficult on the populace. Not impossible, but difficult. When we adopted CC in Texas MANY people, Peace Officers especially, did not understand and were "afraid" of the potential outcome. Gladly NONE of the predictions came to pass. I had co-workers who were running around like chickens with their heads cut off proclaiming blood will run in the streets! I was all to happy to say "I told you so" when that did not happen.

    OC is a different animal. Right, wrong or otherwise the general populace is a bunch of Hoplophobes. They see a gun and freak out! Hell, one of our Detectives got accosted by the local PD because he was OC in plain clothes (with badge on the belt and handcuffs in the back). When the back up units arrived they dogged out the primary officers for being STUPID!

    On another note though, with the media attention given to the mass shootings, the people ARE afraid. One never really knows what the intentions are. We can preach all day long about 2nd Amendment rights, but what about the knuckleheads who DO go on shooting sprees? Are we to ignore EVERYONE carrying a gun and let these crazy bastages go on killing?

    An armed society is a polite society. If EVERYONE OC'd there would lnot be a problem. There are way too many sheep who just wet themselves at the sight of a gun. We are reaping the "benefits" of a safe society. Perhaps it has been too safe. People have become complacent. They rely on the government for their safety (and food, and housing, and medical care, and transprtation, etc). Yes Benjamin Franklin was right, those who will give up some of their rights in exchange for safety, deserve neither. It will take a major upheaval in society for the current trend to be reversed. I am not necessarily opposed to such an upheaval. A little chlorine in the gene pool will be good in the long run.

    But I digress. OC is an isue best left to the individual State. If Kali, NY, NJ, Hellinois, etc do not want it, that is their right. If places like Arizona and Michigan do? That too is their right. Please use common sense and be considerate of the rights (and "feelings") of others. If you choose to OC, you should carry some small fliers to hand out that explain the law. If some education is passed on, the issue will die down.
     
  14. seancslaughter

    seancslaughter New Member

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    I know what a terry frisk is there is no flaw in how I wrote it I know I have been a federal law enforcement officer and have used them. Here is the exact definition In the United States, a "Terry stop" is a brief detention of a person by police on reasonable suspicion of involvement in criminal activity but short of probable cause to arrest.
     
  15. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    OK, You cannot reasonably articulate a crime in that scenario. One that should be investigated? The way they went about it leaves a BUNCH to be desired, but a legit Terry Stop none the less.
     
  16. seancslaughter

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    Unless he was pulled over for some type of violation they cannot just stop and frisk him on his motorcycle and "just because he was carrying a gun" is not reasonable suspicion in a state where OC is legal. I am sorry but many of the LEOs need more training in states where oc is legal because like I said if you stop me without reasonable suspicion or any violation or crime and attempt to frisk me and restrict my freedom of movement I will own that town
     
  17. Gonzilla

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    Each state has it's own rules & regulations. I have lived in AZ - OC & CT - CC and can attest to the hostile environment in CT or CC state.

    I have a CC license - Why ? - You need one just to transport your guns to the range in CT. Every mass shooting gets alot of press in here. If someone see's your weapon or even just thinks they do, they panic and call the police. The police respond as if there is a mass shooting.

    While searching on-line (not always the most reliable data) I came across a State Police memo stating the officers had the right to detain anyone w a gun until they could ascertain the situation.

    No idea on the legality but the bottom line is the police can make your life extremely uncomfortable if they choose to.
     
  18. Doc3402

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    Tweeeet! Personal Foul. Robocop10mm. Inserting logic, intelligence, and understanding into an Open Carry thread.

    Well done!
     
  19. partdeux

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    Florida v J.L. said an anonymous tip of illegal behavior was insufficient reason to conduct a search, why would legal activity suddenly be ok?
     
  20. Warrior1256

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    Yeah, no kidding!!!! In a gun store / range????? Is nothing sacred anymore????