Hi everyone. I recently learned that I can actually open carry a firearm as long as it is not loaded, but can also keep my loaded magazines in my Mag pouch on the side. What do you guys think of this?
Wisconsin Carry, Inc: Press release regarding Madison 5 Culvers Incident
For immediate release:
Last fall five Wisconsin Carry members were peacefully enjoying dinner at a
Madison area Culvers restaurant. Like thousands of Wisconsin residents, they
carry a sidearm for self-defense as a daily practice in the only manner
currently provided by Wisconsin law. After a 911 caller inquired as to the
legality of open-carry, Madison police arrived en masse and illegally demanded
identification from all five. Two members who politely declined to provide ID
were wrongfully cited for obstruction of justice. (Wisconsin, a free state, does
not require you produce identification when you have done nothing wrong.) Those
citations were rescinded 2 days later and all 5 were mailed citations for
disorderly conduct despite no evidence of a disturbance. Details of that initial
incident are available on Wisconsin Carry's website Welcome to Wisconsin Carry, Inc..
Click on the "Sept. 23rd 2010" blog heading for details including the audio of
the 911 call.
Wisconsin Carry filed a federal civil lawsuit against the City of Madison and
Police Chief Noble Wray on September 29, 2010. That lawsuit can be viewed here:
http://www.wisconsincarry.org/pdf/Ma...nComplaint.pdf
Wisconsin Carry also retained, on behalf of our members, notable defense
attorney Chris Van Wagner, principal of the Madison law firm Van Wagner & Wood
Wisconsin Attorney - Successful Criminal DUI Defense Attorneys - Drunk Driving Defense Lawyers - Sex Rape Sexual Assault Lawyer - Drug Possession Penalties - Murder Homicide Laws - Criminal Appeals Attorneys - Best Defense Lawyers - Madison WI 53703 to contest the wrongfully issued disorderly
conduct citations.
Today, Wisconsin Carry is pleased to announce that Attorney Van Wagner has
informed us that all of the charges against the "Madison 5" have been dismissed.
According to Attorney Van Wagner "The Madison City Attorney agreed after a full
review of the police investigation and 911 call that there was absolutely no
disturbance created by our members and that the disorderly conduct citations
were inappropriate". Van Wagner also added that "The ONLY disturbance created
on that Saturday evening was by a mass of uniformed Madison police officers and
squads arriving to investigate law-abiding citizens having dinner"
Questions about this incident and subsequent actions by Wisconsin Carry and our
attorney may be directed to Wisconsin Carry or Attorney Chris Van Wagner.
Wisconsin Carry will shortly be filing a second civil lawsuit against Madison
Police Chief Noble Wray and the City of Madison to obtain damages on behalf of
our members for their wrongful detainment and costs associated with disposing of
the citations.
Wisconsin Carry, Inc. is a non-profit organization dedicated to the preservation
and advancement of the ability of law-abiding Wisconsin residents to legally
carry in the manner of their choosing (open or concealed).
Carry On,
Nik Clark
Chairman/President - Wisconsin Carry, Inc.
nik@wisconsincarry.org
Welcome to Wisconsin Carry, Inc.
I understand the feeling and many times I get discouraged, but we have actually made some progress. If the best we can do is hold the line, so be it. But we can't give up, we are in the right.I think california has always been against anything to do with firearms. I fear tht california is a lost cause
Hey i know sum people tht should only b able to carry a framing hammerCA357 said:I understand the need to exercise our rights. However, unloaded open carry seems like more hassle than it's worth for the trouble involved. Should it be legal? Yes. Is it a sensible thing to do? Not so much.
It's probably better to carry a framing hammer because you don't have to take the time to load it.
Lol, thts good stuffCA357 said:I love a good framing hammer, but I prefer a rigging axe.
You can see it on the wall here:
I think you should carry open and loaded as an EMT in LA, that's a bad place. In Texas our fire marshals, coroners, and crime scene investigators carry open and loaded on duty. I live in San Antonio and I think our EMTs should do the same cause we got stupid people all over the city.EMTchad said:You all make perfect sense. And yeah i wouldnt be open carrying for no reason, maybe if I went camping or something that's pretty much it. I strongly believe we have all the rights to protect ourselves, and let us get a Ccp. I'm am active EMT and an FTO for downtown Los angeles. Sometimes these people here go nuts on us jus because we are wearing uniforms and look like LEO... it gets bad sometimes.
Well put. I am a LEO and I carry concealed off duty. I don't want anybody to know I have a gun until I catch you doing something you shouldn't be doing.MrWray said:<img src="http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32559"/>
I was given this as a gift, i think it could inflict sum damage....but back to the topic, there will always b those types of people tht want the attention because they feel "cool". I carry to protect myself and my family not to look like a badass
A brother in blue.. I am taking a break from LE at the moment but im also a CLEET certified officer. I was a deputy sheriff,K9 handler and SRT team leader for the county tht i live in for many years. Sheriff's changed and ilost some of my partners so i had an opportunity to make a lil more money.BUT its only temporary, being a cop is in my blood and its wat i am so i will b wearing a badge again before long. Much respect to u brother, stay safe out thereAznZOhAn said:Well put. I am a LEO and I carry concealed off duty. I don't want anybody to know I have a gun until I catch you doing something you shouldn't be doing.
Thank you sir and you do the same. I love being LE, I had an op to make more doing other things but it's in my blood too brother.MrWray said:A brother in blue.. I am taking a break from LE at the moment but im also a CLEET certified officer. I was a deputy sheriff,K9 handler and SRT team leader for the county tht i live in for many years. Sheriff's changed and ilost some of my partners so i had an opportunity to make a lil more money.BUT its only temporary, being a cop is in my blood and its wat i am so i will b wearing a badge again before long. Much respect to u brother, stay safe out there