Open carry in Ohio is legal. No permit required to open carry.
No insult, I tell them store policy, make them aware that I am a licensed carrier myself and understand but it's not allowed. Just as outlined with Marshall I tell them they can place the firearm securely in their vehicle or conceal it and come right back. This far the Marshall responded well and two others didn't come back.Austin
I live in Ohio and I carry discretely in Ohio almost all the time, as I don't usually tuck my shirt over my custom leather IWB 1911 at 2 Oclock. Only the grip is exposed and with my shirts that pull up a bit, they tend to "drape over" the biggest part of the gun. And most people don't notice since they aren't looking for a gun. I'm skinny so I can carry a full size 1911 and not print. Case in point, I have been stopping at my cell fone store to dsicuss issues with my IPhone. I usually deal with the same saleslady. Only after the 4th visit with her did she finally notice my gun. He comment was, "Wow, I only just noticed you have your CCW!" I explained that I carry 100% and shrugged it off. (we spent the next half hour talking about guns and shooting since the store was empty. She's MY kind of woman....)
A few will notice and ask me about it and I always take time to explain in words anyone (except liberals) can understand and accept. I liken it to their car insurance, have it but don't want to use it....
There are times I wear an untucked shirt or light jacket. I dislike winter since I have to bundle up to stay warm, making it hard to access the gun if I need it.
I carry into my bank all the time, movie theaters, grocery stores, gas stations and don't worry if I get "made". Well, I carry 100% of the time, even in my home bcuz my holster makes it very comfortable.
I travel to Indiana every weekend, too, and carry the same way there, since their law says thet allow me to carry based on the Ohio law. At least that's the way I interpreted what I read about their law.
BOX, why would you insult people by running them out of your place of business ??!? I can understand the punk-pocket-carrier but the Marshall and others ?
If you don't already understand you never will. Trust me it wasn't insulting or the Marshall wouldn't have come back to do business with me.BOX
Being one of us SHEEPDOGS (at least I'm assuming you would come to the defense of someone who is in dire straits) why do you choose to disarm someone who is one of our brothers, rather than to simply "I didn't see/notice" that someone is legally armed ?
It sounds to me like you have this barney fife complex that makes you feel SO GOOD bcuz you followed that stupid liberal philosophy of "nobody should have a gun" so you push them out the door.
I would simply suggest, in a whisper to the person who let one slip, "you might consider fixing your ZIPPER". or something like that. Why dig out your imaginary badge of honor that might let someone get killed ? Do you get a bonus for everyone you run ?
Long story short, YES, it IS an insult to run them out, especially if they are a USMarshall.
If you ever have the chance to sit in on the 1-day seminar given by LTC USA (RET) Dave Grossman entitled "THE BULLETPROOF MIND" do so and then during a break, talk with Dave about your action to run the LTC's out of your store. He's more eloquent than I ever could be.
Someone gets it. They do exist! Lol well put.I see both sides of the equation. if you are a business owner, you are not guaranteed a paycheck for punching the clock and putting your 40 hours in. Your paycheck depends on customers giving you money in trade for merchandise that you have on the shelves, or performing whatever service it is that you do.
If a lawfully licensed conceal carry holder is so lazy with his CONCEALED weapon, that it can be seen by the business owner and every other customer in the place...and it starts scaring customers away because they're afraid of guns, guess what? you as the business owner are watching dollars walk out of your front door, and going across the street to your competition.
I don't see this as anything to do with a barney fife complex. If the gun was visible and the store owner saw it, you can bet that other customers saw it too. if the store owner just quietly says "hey you're showing" and the customer sees that the business owner "didn't do anything about it" then they may still walk right out the door. but if the business owner says 'hey man, go back outside, re-conceal or put it in the car' and other customers see the guy leave, then come back, they will probably assume that the guy put it in his car, and that there's no more weapons in the store.
at the end of the day, CONCEALED means CONCEALED. If the CCW holder took his obligation a little more seriously and made sure it was concealed, then this is a non-issue, because the other customers, and the business owner will not know that the CCW holder is carrying.
Again, this is not a barney fife complex, or an issue of putting down your fellow "brothers" for carrying a weapon, instead, it's an issue of the CCW holder being lazy and sloppy with his concealment. Why defend him? I've read another thread on here where someone's wife bumped into a man at a chick-fil-a and noticed he was carrying, and she said 'oh, you're carrying' The guy responded back with "100% of the time" and everyone here was calling HIM a "barney fife who thinks he's gods gift to society and needs to learn to respect the CCW and not walk around like a mall rent-a-cop who thinks he's SWAT"
I could bewrong here, but i don't think you know what you're talking about and speak in absurd generalities that have no backing, not even logic.CUDA
If a business owner posts a 30.06 sign and notices a customer who is carrying it is his right to have the man arrested for trespass. Most that I've heard of will simply request the carrier to be "more careful" about concealing it and maybe issue a request he not bring it back, under implied threat of arrest. However, so many of the businesses I've seen that posted prohibitions have seen the light and removed their signs.
You talk about being lazy about CC but I don't think it's anything about laziness. If there is a sign, and you don't want to leave your piece in the car, you ARE going to scrupulously conceal it. They don't want to be arrested by letting ANYONE know you have it. AND THEY WON'T. Ask many of us who do carry how 30.06 signs are handled. Time is spent talking with some of those owners who don't have a clue and they never have any idea they are talking with an armed person.
You also exclaim "and every other customer in the place" (liken this to Chicken Little screaming "THE SKY IS FLALING").... C'Mon, Barney, GET REAL. You sound like those on the womens tv shows who want to ban all guns. What you say is irrational and you know it.
There might be some who will walk out bcuz they saw "someone" with a gun in the store but realistically, NOT MANY, if any, will do that. And we also know they will be back. It's called human nature.
You also infer that anyone who carries 100% is Barney Fife. Do YOU EVER carry ? So when you do, then YOU are playing that same BF. Again, get real.
Ohio law protects open carry by virtue of ORC 9.68 which preempts any municipal laws prohibiting the act. This means no municipality may prohibit said carry. There are at least 2 cities/municipalities in Ohio that have gotten "slapped down" for their attempt to regulate this.
Waiting periods are totally different from ANY carry law.