One of my "Oldies"

Discussion in 'Curio & Relic Discussion' started by M14sRock, Aug 1, 2010.

  1. M14sRock

    M14sRock New Member

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    I picked this up a few years ago, and pulled it out today while looking for something else. It is an old Webley&Scott .32. Condition is near mint, except that the left side grip is cracked and each one is chipped. Tough to find originals, but I have a set of repros in the parts bin.

    It is a great, fun shooter, but has only been taken out a couple of times. The fit and finish are superb.

    The guy I got it from had bought it hoping it was a "Metropolitan Police" version which are very rare. So when it ended up being the "Non-Metro" version he gave it to me for a song.

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  2. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    Sweet. That's the first one I've ever seen.

    Have you ever owned an Ortgies? I think I'd like one someday.
     

  3. M14sRock

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    Thanks Don.

    I have not owned an Ortgies, but am sure one will show up some day. Kind of a cross between a Browning 1922 and a Rem 51, as far as looks. Almost got a nice Rem 51 recently, but decided to wait.

    I got into a "pocket pistol" groove a few years ago and bought a bunch of historically significant pistols. Sauers, Walthers, Mausers, Colts, Brownings, Webley & Scott, Berettas, etc. Lots of fun to shoot, but serious limitations in the accuracy dept, usually. The one I shoot the most is an old Sauer 1913. Not sure why, but I really like it.

    Sold many of them, but kept a few. This is one I kept.
     
  4. CA357

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    Good to know. I'd still love to have a Colt 1907 in .380. But they've gotten pricey and scarce.
     
  5. Cpt-Hotpants

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    Fantastic lookin little gun. Ive heard good things about them.

    Very cool.
     
  6. spittinfire

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    Interesting little piece. Thanks for putting up the pic.
     
  7. Rick1967

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    I like showing up at the range to have people ask what you are shooting and how old it is.
     
  8. Jo da Plumbr

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    Very cool!!!

    So how come you never bring stuff like that out when we go shooting???:D
     
  9. M14sRock

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    Don't I always ask you, "Hey Jo, is there anything I have that you want me to bring...?" Ha.

    These little pocket pistols are fun to shoot at about 7 yards, but after that most of them are just making noise. But the Webley is a good shooter.
     
  10. Jo da Plumbr

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    Touche

    Hey someday we should just bring out the pistols. I would love to get some tips from you.:D
    You a member at any indoor? I have Membership at Firing Line.

    FIRING-LINE Indoor Shooting Ranges
     
  11. M14sRock

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    I was a member there for a long time. But when I moved from Northridge to the west end I let it lapse. We used to shoot there every Monday night.

    Let's plan an evening there, or head to the dez on a Sat. I get twitchy when too many people are at the indoor range. I'm afraid of getting the "hot lead injection". I'll send you an email in a bit.
     
  12. bobd42

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    Thanks for the nice picture , i have never seen one of these before .
    Just when you get to thinking that there is nothing new to be see up pops
    another suprise .
     
  13. lewwallace

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    Here's its' bros and cousins: c/w top left; 32, 9mm Browning Long, 38acp, 455 No1 MkI!
     

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  14. M14sRock

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    Very cool!! Do you shoot them?
     
  15. lewwallace

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    Yup! Ammo not that scarce, but the 455(whew!) 5.00 a pop but bought 35 so now have brass. Once a year at annual collectors shoot!
     
  16. M14sRock

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    Awesome. It is crazy how expensive .455 has become.
     
  17. lewwallace

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    That quote was for455 auto. Bought a box of Dominion 455cf at OCGA show $50. Couple @GB @90-95 per 50 and one box is MkII. 45Colt about the same($50 that is) Also found 100 custom BP 450cf @135.00 including shipping! Got brass now!!
     
  18. Nice pistol.

    I don't have a W&S but I do have an H&R version. I want a Webley and Scott but haven't found one yet.

    Someone mentioned Ortgies. I have two of them, with different 'address lines'; one has "Ortgies" escutcheons, the other has the "Deutche werke" escutcheons. As 'old guns' go, they are fairly common and still rather inexpensive.

    I collect 'art deco' .32 automatics. Still looking for a Remington 51, a W&S and one or two others. Last year I scored an Astra 300. This year I obtained an FN 1900.

    My experience is a bit different in terms of accuracy. Most of them shoot well enough for use as a defensive sidearm. (Power isn't overwhelming.) I can keep most shots on a silhouette target center (eight ring and better) out to fifteen yards commonly and some will make head shots reliably at longer distances. This is of course slow, deliberate fire. I find the sights rather lacking and the trigger pulls typically horrendous.

    Still, they're an interesting glimpse of the past and the technical evolution of the defensive sidearm.
     
  19. Saman

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    I really like the .32 ACP pistols. I have a Savage 1907 in .32. It was made in 1912. It is as functional as it was when it was made. The target shown was fired at 15 yards with 2 hands.
     

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  20. Saman, Two hands at fifteen yards, slow fire, is a good indication of what the gun will do. The shooter has his (or her) own problems, but the gun is capable. Also, 32 ACP is not a real 'inspiring' cartridge, those Savage pistols are pretty reliable in my experience.

    There's a lot to be said for a sidearm which is reliable and hits where it's pointed. Not to mention the FMJ .32 ACP is a fair (not great) penetrator. I'd rather have one or two solid and proper hits from a .32 than twelve to fifteen clear misses with a .416 Rigby. (To be fair, I'd rather have a good, solid hit from a big gun than the same good, solid hit from a small gun, but one takes what one can get.)

    And those old pistols have some great history.