Okay, The Cartridge Collection

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  1. Benning Boy

    Benning Boy New Member

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    Use your imagination, visualize, and try to answer three questions.

    I want to make a shadowbox-type thingy, and have one of every available cartridge in it.

    I'm willing to forgo the exotic, $10 apiece safari rounds, but everything else is a go.

    So here we go....

    1) Just how many cartridges, still in production, for rifle, pistol, and shotgun is that?

    2) How big would such a display be?

    3) what would such an endeavor cost?
     
  2. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    I have 3 cartridge boards in my man cave. Each board is hung from 100 lb hooks placed IN A STUD. HEAVY wire on board. And that is not everything out there- just a good sampling of rifle, handgun, and shotgun ammo.

    A friend is a SERIOUS collector. He has 4 map cabinets. The kind with the pull out drawers that hold flat map sheets?

    It will be a lot more ammo than you hink (I started mine with the shadow box idea in the 70's) It will cost more than you think, since it is hard to get single rounds of many cartridges.

    But do not let me put you off- it can be a lot of fun- and along the way, you learn about why THIS is different from THAT.
     

  3. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    Man, BB, I want one of those so bad. There is one in the office of the gun club I belong to and it is awesome. That one sells for about $189 and I would say it measures probably 18"x 24". I'll try to get a pic of it for you some day.

    A noble endeavor!
     
  4. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    Do you want current production or current and obsoleate production?

    Some of your smaller rounds are going to be more expensive that big 600 NE.

    Are you going rimfire as well as centerfire?

    Rimfire

    Remington
    Thunder bolts
    Cbee
    Cyclone®
    Game Load
    Remington® Golden Bullet
    Subsonic™
    Target
    Thunderbolt®
    Viper®
    Yellow Jacket®
    Remington-ELEY Competition Rimfire Club Xtra
    Remington-ELEY Competition Rimfire Match EPS
    Remington-ELEY Competition Rimfire Target Rifle
    Magnum Rimfire Cartridges 22mag
    Premier® Gold Box™ Rimfire 22 mag
    Magnum Rimfire Cartridges17hmr
    Premier® Gold Box™ Rimfire 17 hmr

    CCI
    Detail 0053 17 HMR HMR TNT 17 TNT HP
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    Detail 0049 17 HMR V-MAX 17 Poly-Tip V-Max
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    Detail 0048 17 Mach 2 V-MAX 17 Poly-Tip V-Max
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    Detail 0028 22 Short Short HP 27 CPHP
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    Detail 0050 22 Long Rifle Stinger 32 CPHP
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    Detail 0031 22 Long Rifle Mini-Mag HP 36 CPHP
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    Detail 0064 22 Long Rifle Segmented Hollow Point 32 SHP
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    Detail 0074 22 Long Rifle Segmented Hollow Point 40 SHP
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    Detail 0024 22 Win Mag Maxi-Mag 40 TNT JHP
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    Detail 0059 22 Win Mag Maxi-Mag +V 30 TNT JHP
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    Detail 0060 22 Win Mag TNT Green 30 TNT Green HP
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    Detail 0063 22 Win Mag Maxi-Mag TNT 30 TNT JHP
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    Detail 0073 22 Win Mag V-MAX 30 Poly-Tip V-Max
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    Detail 0951 17 HMR TNT Green 16 TNT Green HP
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    Detail 0055 17 HMR HMR FMJ 20 FMJ
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    Detail 0052 17 HMR HMR GamePoint 20 JSP
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    Detail 0058 22 Long Rifle SGB 40 LFN
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    Detail 0056 22 Long Rifle Subsonic HP 40 LHP
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    Detail 0047 22 Long Rifle Velocitor 40 CPHP
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    Detail 0022 22 Win Mag HMR GamePoint J SP 40 GamePoint JSP
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    Detail 0029 22 Long Long HV 29 CPRN
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    Detail 0030 22 Long Rifle Mini-Mag HV 40 CPRN
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    Detail 0032 22 Long Rifle Standard Velocity 40 LRN
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    Detail 0027 22 Short Short HV 29 CPRN
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    Detail 0023 22 Win Mag Maxi-Mag 40 TMJ
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    Detail 0952 22 Long Rifle SRG 21 Green HP
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    Detail 0033 22 Long Rifle Green Tag 40 LRN
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    Detail 0051 22 Long Rifle Pistol Match 40 LRN
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    Detail 0045 22 Long Rifle Select 40 LRN
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    Detail 0037 22 Short Short Target 29 LRN
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    Detail 0039 22 Long Rifle Shotshell 31 #12 shot
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    Detail 0028 22 Short Short HP 27 CPHP
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    Detail 0050 22 Long Rifle Stinger 32 CPHP
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    Detail 0025 22 Win Mag Maxi-Mag 52 #12 shot
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    Detail 0038 22 Long CB Long 29 LRN
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    Detail 0026 22 Short CB 29 LRN
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    Detail 0069 22 WRF WRF 45 TNT JHP
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    Federal

    P770
    17 HMR
    17 / 1.1
    Speer® TNT® JHP
    V-Shok®



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    P771
    17 HMR
    17 / 1.1
    Hornady® V-Max
    V-Shok®



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    UM22
    22 Long Rifle
    40 / 2.59
    Solid
    Gold Medal®



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    745
    22 Long Rifle
    36 / 2.33
    Copper Plated HP
    Champion® Target



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    810
    22 Long Rifle
    40 / 2.59
    Copper Plated Solid
    Game-Shok®



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    922A
    22 Long Rifle
    40 / 2.59
    Solid
    Gold Medal®



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    AE22
    22 Long Rifle
    38 / 2.46
    Copper Plated HP
    American Eagle®



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    AE5022
    22 Long Rifle
    40 / 2.59
    Solid
    American Eagle®



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    AM22
    22 Long Rifle
    40 / 2.59
    Solid
    Champion® Target



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    510
    22 Long Rifle
    40 / 2.59
    Solid
    Champion® Target



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    710
    22 Long Rifle
    40 / 2.59
    Copper Plated Solid
    Game-Shok®



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    711B
    22 Long Rifle
    40 / 2.59
    Solid
    Gold Medal®



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    712
    22 Long Rifle
    38 / 2.46
    Copper Plated HP
    Game-Shok®



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    716
    22 Long Rifle
    25 / 1.62
    No. 12 Lead Shot
    Game-Shok®



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    719
    22 Long Rifle
    40 / 2.59
    Solid
    Gold Medal®



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    724
    22 Long Rifle
    31 / 2.01
    Copper Plated HP
    Game-Shok®



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    737
    22 Win. Magnum
    40 / 2.59
    Full Metal Jacket
    Champion® Target



    compare
    P765
    22 Win. Magnum
    30 / 1.94
    Speer® TNT® HP
    V-Shok®



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    757
    22 Win. Magnum
    50 / 3.24
    JHP
    Game-Shok®



    Winchester
    Image Description

    SUPREME®

    JHP
    V-Max™
    Supreme products are Winchester’s best. They are the most technologically advanced ammunition money can buy.

    SUPER-X®

    Tin Round Nose
    Full Metal Jacket
    Lead Round Nose - Standard Velocity
    #12 SHOT
    Power Point® - Lead Hollow Point
    JHP
    Lead Hollow Point
    Blank
    Power-Point®
    Lead Round Nose
    JHP-Tin
    Want better, more dependable knock-down power? Then load up with the legendary Super-X ammunition – made with the same skill, care and quality as when first introduced in 1922. Today Super-X is made using precise manufacturing processes and the highest quality components to provide consistent, dependable performance that generations of shooters continue to rely upon.

    WILDCAT®

    Lead Round Nose
    Dyna Point - Plated
    Lead Flat Nose
    Performs well at a great price.

    XPERT®

    Lead Hollow Point
    Designed to provide great performance at a value price.

    555 ROUNDS®

    LHP Lubaloy® Plated

    333 ROUNDS®

    LHP Lubaloy® Plated

    DYNAPOINT®

    Dynapoint®
    Dynapoint®

    That is just rimfire ammo from Remington, CCI, Winchester, Federal. You're gonna need a big shadow box or plenty of storage.
     
  5. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    I bet he wants (1) .22 short, (1) .22 long, (1) .22LR and on up. Not different brands and cases for the same caliber. Maybe I'm wrong.
     
  6. Benning Boy

    Benning Boy New Member

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    No, that's exactly what I'm visualizing. Basically, Okay, here's the smallest round made. Here's the next one up. Here's the next one, and it's a hollowpoint, here's the next, but it's an example of a Semi wadcutter.

    If I can do a nice display, I'm not above buying a box for a caliber I don't have, taking one out, and doing a giveaway for members that can use them. Except for Brian, he goes nuts if they short him in the value pack.:D

    For now, I'm not even going to try to find the obsolete stuff, I just want to round up available stuff. If the collecting bug starts to bite me, I might start questing for the 9x27 mm Aztec round.

    So how many calibers am I looking at?
     
  7. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Just a thought, but why not solicit the good members to send you one cartridge from the ones they use often. That would be a great start and would give you some sections that you can then fill in over time.
     
  8. Benning Boy

    Benning Boy New Member

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    I had considered that, but shipping ammo is such a PIA.

    What I need is the list. I had never heard of the 6.8, and now it's popping up everywhere. I'm curious as to just how much is out there that I've never heard of.
     
  9. Josey Wales '94

    Josey Wales '94 New Member

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    Hundreds, heck, maybe thousands. I don't know. I have about eighty on my wall and it's the tip of the iceberg...
     
  10. Benning Boy

    Benning Boy New Member

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    Okay, so this has been done before.

    But that's good. It's competition, something to aspire to.....
     
  11. dog2000tj

    dog2000tj New Member

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    I'd have to say if you are looking for 1 of each cartridge my guess is it will be well into the thousands :confused:

    The video isn't that impressive but if you scroll down and read the comments one fellow states he's been collecting for 20yrs and has over 3000 cartridges :eek:

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBH0Sb-W-fo]YouTube - my ammo collection[/ame]

    As for a display what were you thinking? Are you considering displaying them mounted with an info plate? Or are you just looking to heap them in a box? I could see something like this needing a huge building :eek:
     
  12. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Starting with the smallest production catridge, and not counting things like .14 Alton Jones RF, you would start with .17 Mach II, .17 HMR, 5mm Remington RF (back in production) 22 bb cap, 22 CB cap, 22 Short, 22 Long, 22 Long Rifle, .22 WRF, .22 WMRF- and then shift up to 25 acp, 32 s&w, 32 Short colt, .32 acp, 380, 9mm- and then it starts getting hairy. I would suggest you pick a venue- rilfe, shotgun, or handgun- or you will get overwhelmed. And go buy a copy of Cartridges of the World. It is a start. I have the wierd ones, like Lilliput, 5mm Clements, .25 Bacon & Bliss RF, etc.

    Just getting examples of the various BULLET types can be a challenge- RN, Flat, wadcutter, semi-wadcutter, Hoxie, Hollowpoint, JSP, JHP, TMJ, metal capped, Westley Richards Man Stopper, Exploder, multi-part bullet, duplex, Riot control (.45 for Thompson) pistol shot loads. tracers, AP, blanks (blanks come in a dozen different varieties) simunition, gas, non-metal bullets- I even have a couple of S&W self lubricators (hollow core, filled w/ grease, brass plug at base, 4 small holes connecting grease cavity to outside.

    See how it grows exponentially? PS- these are mainly shotshells- from 6mm to 4 gauge.

    Guns Misc 004.jpg
     
  13. Benning Boy

    Benning Boy New Member

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    Dude, there's a missile in there!:eek:
     
  14. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    THAT is what is inside a 12 g Ferret CS shell. The payload is a barricade or windshield penetrating projectile- plastic, hollow, filled with liquid CS.

    Don't be silly- the missles are over behind the door, not visible in that picture!
     
  15. Angry_bald_guy

    Angry_bald_guy Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    That wall box is sick...
     
  16. Benning Boy

    Benning Boy New Member

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    That's the kind of thing I had in mind....
     
  17. Shihan

    Shihan Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    This would look nice in a box. Just needs a little cleaning up.
     

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  18. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    OK BB, this is in no way complete but its a start:

    Pistol


    4.6x30 HK P
    .221 Remington Fireball
    5.45x18 Soviet K.G.B. P. S. M. (Pisztolyet Szamozaryadnij Malogabaritnyj)
    5.7x28mm FNH
    .25 NAA P
    25 ACP or 25 Auto (Automatic)
    5.75 Velo Dog
    7.5mm Swiss Army Revolver O
    7.62x25mm Russian
    7.63mm Mauser Broomstick
    7.65x21mm 30 Lugar
    32 NAA P
    32 ACP or 32 Auto (Automatic) 7.65mm
    32 S&W Short or 32 Smith & Wesson Short
    32 S&W Long or 32 Smith & Wesson Long
    327 Federal Magnum
    .32 H&R Magnum
    32-20 Winchester
    8mm Rast-Gasser
    8mm Lebel
    8mm Japanese Nambu
    8mm Roth-Steyr
    9x17mm Kurz (380 Auto 380 APC)
    9x18mm Ultra
    9x18mm Police
    9x18mm Makarov
    9x19mm Lugar or 9mm Parabellum
    9mm Steyr
    9mm Browning Long
    9x21mm IMI
    9mm Largo or 9mm Bayard Long
    9x23mm Winchester
    9x25 Dillon P
    356 TSW 9Team Smith & Wesson or Tactical Smith & Wesson) O
    .357 Magnum
    357 SIG
    375 JDJ (J.D. Jones)
    38 Short Colt
    38 Long Colt
    38 Special
    38 ACP or 38 Auto (Automatic)
    38 Super Auto
    38 Smith & Wesson
    380 Auto 380 APC also 9mm Kurz (9x17mm)
    380 Rimmed Revolver Mark II
    38-40 Winchester
    400 Cor-Bon P
    10mm Auto
    41 Remington Magnum
    10.4 Italian Ordnance Revolver O
    44 Smith & Wesson Special
    44 Remington Magnum
    44 Russian or 44 S&W Russian
    44-40 Winchester
    440 Cor-Bon Magnum P
    44 Colt O
    44 Auto Magnum P
    45 Winchester Magnum
    45 GAP (Glock Auto Pistol)
    45 Schofield or 45 Smith & Wesson
    45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol)
    45 Colt
    45 Wildey P
    454 Casull
    .455 Colt
    455 Revolver MK I
    455 Enfield
    455 Webley MK II
    455 Revolver MK VI
    455 Webley Automatic
    460 Smith & Wesson
    460 Rowland P
    475 Linebaugh P
    .475 Wildey P
    480 Ruger
    .499 LWR (Leitner-Wise Rifle Company) P
    50 AE or 50 Action Express
    500 Smith & Wesson Special
    500 Smith & Wesson Magnum
    50 Beowulf
    50 GI P
    500 Linebaugh P
    500 Wyoming Express P

    Rifle

    .17 Remington Fireball
    .17 Remington
    4.6x30mm HK
    20 Tactical by Dakota
    204 Ruger
    22 Hornet
    218 BEE
    .222 Remington
    .22 PPC USA Norma (Palmissano, Pindell Cartridge)
    .220 Swift
    220 Howell P
    .220 Swift Remington Etronx, (electronically discharged round)
    .223 WSSM (Wincheter Super Short Magnum)
    .223 Remington
    5.56x45mm Nato
    22-250 Remington 22 Varminter
    .224 Weatherby Magnum
    225 Winchester
    6mm Remington
    6mm PPC
    6mm PPC-USA
    .240 Weatherby Magnum
    .240 Hawk P
    6mm Norma BR (Bench Rest)
    .243 Wincheter
    6.17mm (.243) Lazzeroni Spitfire
    .243 WSSM (Wincheter Super Short Magnum)
    25 WSSM (Wincheter Super Short Magnum)
    .25/20 Remington
    .25/35 Winchester
    .257 Weatherby Magnum
    .257 Hawk P
    .257 Roberts
    .250 Savage
    .25/06 Remington
    6.53mm (.257) Lazzeroni Scramjet
    6.5-06 A-Square P
    .260 Remington
    6.5x55mm Swedish Mauser
    .264 Winchester Magnum
    6.5-284 Norma
    6.5 Remington Magnum
    6.5 Grendel
    6.5 Creedmoor
    .264 Hawk P
    6.5x47 Lapua
    6.71mm (.264) Lazzeroni Phantom
    .270 Winchester
    .270 WSM (Wincheter Short Magnum)
    .270 Weatherby Magnum
    270 Howell P
    .270 Hawk P
    6.8 Remington SPC
    7/30 Waters
    7mm Mauser
    7mm WSM (Wincheter Short Magnum)
    7mm Remington S.A.U.M. (Short Action Ultra Magnum)
    7mm/08 Remington
    7x64 Brenneke
    7mm Remington Magnum
    .280 Remington
    .280 Hawk P
    284 Winchester
    284 Winchester Rimless O
    7mm Weatherby Magnum
    7.21 (.284) Lazzeroni Firebird
    7mm STW (Shooting Times Westerner)
    7mm Dakota P (3,695 fps)
    7mm Remington Ultra Magnum
    7.21 (.284) Lazzeroni Tomahawk
    300 Whisper WC
    30 Carbine
    300 Savage
    300 Howell P
    30 T/C (Thompson Center) P
    300 Dakota P
    300 Pegasus (A-Square 3,700 fps)
    300 H&H (Holland & Holland) Rimless Magnum O
    300 H&H (Holland & Holland) Flanged (Rimmed) Magnum
    300 Hawk P
    30 Gibs WC
    300 RCM (Ruger Compact Magnum) Ruger/Hornady
    310 GNR (Gary Reeder Custom Guns)
    .30 Remington AR (30RAR) [for Remington's R15 Rifle]
    300 Weatherby Magnum
    .300 Winchester Magnum
    300 WSM (Wincheter Short Magnum)
    300 Remington S.A.U.M. (Short Action Ultra Magnum)
    .30-338 Weatherby Magnum
    .30-30 Winchester
    .303 British (Black Powder)
    .303 British (Cordite)
    303 - MarkIIIZ by C.I.L.(Canadian Industries Limited 1942)
    303 Miniature (Kynoch)
    30 Army (Nick-named the 30-40 Krag)
    307 Winchester O
    308 Winchester
    7.62x51mm NATO
    308 Marlin Express
    7.82mm (.308) Lazzeroni Patriot
    7.82mm (.308) Lazzeroni Warbird
    .30-06 Springfield
    30-06 A-Square Monolithic Solid P
    7.62x39 (Soviet M43)
    3200 Hawk P
    .32/20 W.C.F. (Winchester Center Fire)
    .32 Winchester Special
    .325 WSM (Wincheter Short Magnum)
    8mm Mauser
    7.9x57mmJ 8mm (.318) German Mauser
    7.9x57mmJS 8mm (.323) German Mauser
    8mm Remington Magnum
    8mm GNR (Gary Reeder Custom Guns)
    330 Dakota P
    .338 Remington Ultra Magnum
    338 Hawk P
    338 Marlin Express
    338 GNR (Gary Reeder Custom Guns)
    .338 Winchester Magnum
    8.59mm (.338) Lazzeroni Titan
    8.59mm (.338) Lazzeroni Galaxy
    .338-378 Weatherby Magnum
    338-06 A-Square P
    338 Federal P (Sako/Federal)
    .338 Lapua (8.58x71mm Finland)
    .338 Excalibur A-Square
    338 RCM (Ruger Compact Magnum) Ruger/Hornady
    .340 Weatherby Magnum
    340 Howell P
    348 Winchester D 1958
    35 Remington Express O
    350 Howell P
    .35 Whelen
    .356 Winchester
    358 S.T.A. (Shooting Times Alaskan)
    358 Hawk P
    .358 Winchester
    370 Sako Magnum
    375 H&H (Holland & Holland) Magnum Rimless
    .375 Winchester
    375 Remington Ultra Magnum
    375 JDJ (J.D. Jones) P
    375 Hawk P
    .375 Weatherby Magnum
    375 Dakota P
    9.53mm (.375) Lazzeroni Hellcat
    9.53mm (.375) Lazzeroni Saturn
    356 GNR (Gary Reeder Custom Guns)
    375 Ruger P Ruger/Hornady
    .376 Steyr
    .378 Weatherby Magnum
    378 GNR (Gary Reeder Custom Guns)
    38-40 Winchester
    38-55 Winchester or 38-55 Ballard
    380 Howell P
    400 A-Square DPM (Dual Purpose Magnum) P
    400 H&H (Holland & Holland) Magnum
    41 GNR (Gary Reeder Custom Guns)
    410 GNR (Gary Reeder Custom Guns)
    404 Dakota P
    405 Winchester O
    408 Chey Tac P
    411 Hawk P
    .416 Remington Magnum
    .416 Weatherby Magnum
    416 Rigby
    416 Taylor
    416 Ruger Bell
    416 Ruger
    416 Dakota P
    416 Barrett
    10.57mm (.416) Lazzeroni Meteor
    10.57mm (.416) Lazzeroni Maverick
    425 Fossdal P
    44-40 Winchester
    .444 Marlin
    450 Ackley Magnum
    450 Rigby
    45 ACP
    450 Assegai P
    .450 Marlin
    450/400 Nitro Express also called 400 Jeffery NE
    577/450 Martini-Henery
    450 Bushmaster
    450 Dakota P
    45/70 Government
    .458 Winchester Magnum
    458 Lott
    458 SOCOM
    .460 Steyr
    460 Short A-Square
    460 Weatherby Magnum
    470 Cap Stick P
    470 Nitro Express
    475 GNR (Gary Reeder Custom Guns)
    12.04mm (.475") Lazzeroni LILMUFU
    495 A-Square P
    .499 LWR (Leitner-Wise Rifle Company) P
    500 A-Square P
    50 Alaskan P
    50 Beowulf
    .50 (12.7x99mm) BMG (Browning Machine Gun, M2-Ball)
    510 GNR (Gary Reeder Custom Guns)
    50-70 Government
    577 Snider
    577 Tyrannosaur P
    585 Nyati P


    D = Discontinued
    O = Obsolete
    P = Proprietary
    WC = Wildcat
     
  19. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    Well, BB, what are you waiting for?
     
  20. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I have a couple of type setter's trays that work well for cartridge collections. You can find them at garage sales. I will have to take a few pics of my collection. I probably have 200 rounds from 17 to 25mm Bushmaster.