OK, so I have this shotgun I know very little about....

Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by Overkill0084, Jun 3, 2012.

  1. Overkill0084

    Overkill0084 Active Member

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    So anyway here goes. I was given a seemingly quite old 20 gauge Side By Side shotgun which is marked Ithaca Gun Co, Ithaca N.Y. The part that makes me think it's old it the barrel markings: Smokeless powder steel. The stock has been refinished and had the Pachmayr recoil pad added on at some point. The Bores seem to be in decent shape aside from some dust. The serial number (225063) was nicely concealed on the bottom the left chamber, visible only with the action open. If there is a model number it's hidden well enough that I haven't found it. Note: I haven't made any effort to disassemble it. Anyway I was hoping someone might be able to fill in some details about it.
    FWIW, it was picked up at some point by my father some years back. Well, he has since passed and my stepmom has zero info about it's origins or how it even came to be in his possession. My Dad wasn't really into shotguns, so I can only assume that it came to him via some trade or a deal too good to pass up.
     

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  2. Sonic82

    Sonic82 New Member

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    no expert here...but I believe anything Ithaca is very desirable.
     

  3. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    Nice Ithaca. Got to be from close to the turn of the century (the last one) to have required the markings regarding smokeless powder use. Not an expert on those though.

    The closest I've had contact with was a Fox Sterlingworth, with damascus barrel, that was worth about $1200.
     
  4. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    1912. Before the rainy season. In the North side of the factory.

    Refinishing anything diminishes collector's value, so will not hazard a guess- but I will send you a nice crisp $100 bill and a shipping box. :D

    And yes, there IS collector interest in the Ithaca doubles.
     
  5. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    It`s a Ithaca model 100 is it not...............
     
  6. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Tom- I THINK it may be a Hammerless Field Grade. The 100 I am thinking of was the SKB 100, from the 60s-70s, and that had a single trigger. Was not joking about the date I posted- that serial number would have been in the block for the Flues guns.

    Hard to judge from a couple of photos- really need hands on from someone that knows old side by sides- but I DO think that is pre WW 1.
     
  7. Triumphman

    Triumphman Active Member

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    Just like their counterpart 1890's Winchester/Marlin 30-30 centerfire cousins, anything that says "Smokeless Powder" on barrel was made from the late 1890's up through 1910, certainly, before WW1. Looks to be even shootable with 2-3/4 shells right now. The blueing might be worn off, but She sure is purty.
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  8. Overkill0084

    Overkill0084 Active Member

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    Thanks guys. To be honest I wasn't sure what to make of it. For a century old gun, it looks pretty good.
     
  9. GrtWhytHype

    GrtWhytHype New Member

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    Just spoke with Ithaca. Said it was a Flues model made in 1912.
     
  10. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    I think you are right, its a 1920`s something Field Grade..............
     
  11. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    0084,

    I believe this to be an Ithaca Flues Model Double Barrel Shotgun. According to the serial number it would have been produced in 1911-1912. It would have smokeless powder labeled on the left side of the left barrel. And Ithaca Gun Company and Ilion NY on the Left Side of the Receiver. It would be safe to shoot without a doubt if the upper and the lower are good and tight. If it is a little loose please put a couple of shells in it (Safely!) and see if it is tight. If so you are good to go! The estimated value of it with the stock and but pad modification mentioned is $450-$495. However sentimental values are more valuable when it comes from our loved ones! Then they are priceless! ;)

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  12. Overkill0084

    Overkill0084 Active Member

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    Thanks to both of you, for the great detail on manufacturing dates.