ohio traffic stop ( ccw )

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by Bear304inc, Mar 5, 2012.

  1. Bear304inc

    Bear304inc New Member

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    During my ccw class on sunday my instructor asked us if we had seen this youtube video...
    OHIO traffic stop

    By no means do I think these officers represent ALL police, but was shocked to watch the way these officers treated this ccw permit holder. I do understand that patrol officers have a very stressful job and have to deal with an incredible amount of bullS, but the comments to this guy were over the top by any account. 18 minutes long, but I bet you watch till the ending. Btw would've posted link but not sure how, lol
     
  2. levelcross

    levelcross New Member

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    WOW, I couldn't even watch the whole video with out getting sick.

    I agree that this doesn't represent even a small portion of LEO's, but it seems that there is one in every crowd on either side of the badge.

    What is not shown is the reason for being pulled over to start with, and in today's world traffic stops are more dangerous than ever before, but I feel that this was over the top as to what should have taken place.

    Here is the link that I saw, [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG2TSCpSEVw[/ame]
     

  3. PrimePorkchop

    PrimePorkchop New Member

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    it just pisses me off to no end to see someone representing the badge in such a manner. There's no way that dumb *** doesn't know there's a dash board camera, so that suggests to me this was something he thought was 'cool' and acceptable.

    What a ****ing moron. Strip him of his job.
     
  4. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    This officer is obviously out of control and should never speak to anyone like that.
    Unfortunately this guy is clearly in a car with a prostitute, between that and having a firearm he is very likely going to do jail time.
    I'm not familiar with the laws there as I'm from MA, but in this state you do not disclose you have a weapon unless you are asked.
    There is a licensing officer. They should know if you have a license to carry. If you have done nothing wrong there is no need for disclosure. But the way things are written here everything is up to the discretion of the officer, meaning you could be arrested for having a black powder revolver on you even though it isn't a gun.

    I respect anyone who is willing to go out and risk their life to better the community or country but with that comes the responsibility to be worthy of that respect. This officer is not and it's a damn shame.
     
  5. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    I cannot believe this just came out of his mouth, Im not a LEO nor have a CCW because I live in the shiester state of IL. However I have several friends that are great LEOs and this crap would have never come out of any of their mouths . I understand his frustration but you cannot say the things is he is saying to the CCW holder . Yes he should have told the LEO he had a CCW permit and that he had a firearm with him first thing. That still doesnt make it right for what happened . My guess he forgot about the recorder rolling and his actions got out of control.
    Good guestimate says he is looking for a new job or pushing papers now
     
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  6. InDefenseofLiberty

    InDefenseofLiberty New Member

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    The "officer" in question is no longer law enforcement. He was fired for his lack of intelligence and professionalism. Farve (if you've ever seen super troopers exists in every dept) this guy was their Farve.

    http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/8158
    This is the link to the story confirming his dismissal and the affirmation that indeed rogue cops don't get to treat law abiding citizens in this matter. Threatening to kill a law abiding citizen who you have wrongfully placed in cuffs is not going to fly, ever.

    The lack of intelligence I speak of stems from the fact that he knew he had a dash cam and microphone and still thought it ok to verbally assault a citizen he had wrongfully placed in detention. If this "officer" had shut his hole for 2 seconds he would have realized he had the situation read wrong. Douchebag cop no more. The city of Canton did the world a favor.
     
  7. BlueTurf

    BlueTurf New Member

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    As in all professions some people are better than others. The buffoon in this video is an embarrassment to law enforcement everywhere. Being firm and tough is not by itself bad but this guy obviously has a big head because he is wearing a badge.
     
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  8. Polygon

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    I'm very glad to hear this! :)

    Oh, and I couldn't agree more.
     
  9. Glockpotion23

    Glockpotion23 New Member

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    That was F****** ridiculous!!!!!!! In Ohio, we were taught to tell the officer the very first chance you get to inform that you have a permit and your carrying. With that being said, that cop is the reason why some people really really dont like law enforcement.
     
  10. tpap583

    tpap583 New Member

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    WOW!! What an ******* of a cop. The lack of him doing his job and standing around could've been a reason as to why he would've gotten shot. If would've questioned the driver b4 hand it would've never went that far What if the driver was some punk thug and didnt care, that video wouldn't of made it 18 minutes, it would've been evidence of cop being murdered in cold blood. I'm not saying that's a reason for anyone cop or civilian to be shot, but to be more proactive insead of reactive.
     
  11. primer1

    primer1 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Right you are. BUT... If a cop was digging in my backseat like in this situation I woulda said then I was carrying. This cop is still a moron Nazi wannabe.
     
  12. nccinstaller

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    The video on buckeye firearms points out like 3 or 4 times where he tried to tell the officer he had a weapon and the cop cut him off. This video is hard to watch it shows a very bad cop and a civilian who got taken advantage of. Luckily 99% of cops are not like this, i have been pulled over a couple of times with my ccw and i live in ohio and the officers have been courtious to me and never given me a hard time. The officer in that video was wrong and thankful fired but to me he seems to be the exception and not the rule if you know what i mean
     
  13. primer1

    primer1 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Ncc, I see what you mean. I missed him trying to announce the ccw. I'm not anti police, with one and one former in my immediate family. I think this might have been a case of the academy instructors tired of the bonehead and passing him to get rid of him. What the h@#$ is this idiot gonna put on his application for his next job? Think about this the next time we complain about a burger. "I outta shoot your dumb a$$ right here for b@#$#$@g about your food!"
     
  14. jplumbob

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    In Ohio you are required by law to inform the officer immediately that you are a concealed carry permit holder and are carrying.
     
  15. woody63m

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    My wife is from canton we were up there last month didnt get pulled over after i saw this im glad i didnt LOL
     
  16. gr8wapiti

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    The lack of respect and professionalism shown by this officer is absurd but not surprising. I had a similar traffic stop happen to me. I was pulled over by a state trooper, I alerted the officer that there was a firearm in the car, she then took my handgun and threatened to confinscate it. I then told her that if she did she was also taking me too and she would then be explaining to her superior why she took a legally carried firearm from a law abiding citizen for no reason. She then looked at me, handed me back my gun and released me. It is amazing to me that police officers think they can bully us like that! Know your rights and stand up for them.
     
  17. partdeux

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    I was advised by my attorney that if an officer requests you hand over your firearm, to immediately ask for a supervisor to be a witness to the officer asking you to commit a crime by touching your firearm in his or her presence. Now, MI law also adds for legal purposes, and the request may be defined as legal, but why would you want to be handling a firearm in an already stressful situation? The person might be carrying a glock and we all know those go off all by themselves ;)
     
  18. NickySantoro

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    I don't know that I could live with myself if something like that happened to me and I didn't take action at some point to level all the bad karma.
     
  19. AIKIJUTSU

    AIKIJUTSU New Member

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    The "passenger" was a hooker, which was apparently the reason for stopping him. Likely the cop was already pissed off. Then there was the possession of a gun during the commission of a felony. But, then why was he not just arrested? It looks like the cop was getting some kind of ego/power trip by abusing him. Man, 15 minutes of throwing a tantrum by a man who was supposed to be able to calmly do his job? He should have been fired.
     
  20. naf84

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    The cop definitely didn't handle the situation well, considering the man wasn't being disorderly. But... if you want to have and keep a CCW permit, I would suggest not having your known hooker friends hang around outside your car window haha. That alone will get you arrested and I promise the cop won't believe your claim that she's your "friend and just needed a ride"