Off to the range........

Discussion in 'Range Report' started by winds-of-change, Mar 6, 2012.

  1. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I'm leaving in a few minutes to GAT Guns to shoot a little and rent an LCP. I'm only bringing "Minnie" my Mark II Target Competition gun. I'm leaving "Maggie" behind. Shh......don't tell her, she'll be jealous.

    I'm going to rent an LCP and maybe the LC9. I'm also going to ask them to show me similar guns I might like. I'll let you know how it goes when I get back.

    One of these days I'm going to ask one of you "local yokels" to meet me at GAT Guns and help me along. I'm not quite brave enough yet. :(
     
  2. silverado113

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  3. canebrake

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    Winds, I bet you don't like shooting the Elsie Pea.

    And if you had to buy a box of 380, I'm sure you have plenty rounds remaining.

    Its a great CCW but not fun to shoot.

    I think you will find the Elsie 9 to be more to your liking.

    You should look at the Elsie Ahrrr in 357 mag. Its a great CCW.
     
  4. vincent

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    You're probably already out the door but I'll say it anyways...The slide on the LCP does NOT lock back on the last shot so it's important to count your shots with that one.

    Looking forward to hearing your takes on those guns...

    Have fun, stay safe!!! :D
     
  5. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I'm back from the range. I shot my Mark II and rented and LC9 and a Kahr .380. They didn't have a LCP for me to try.

    First, here's my Mark II, Minnie. Ain't she purdy?

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    Here's the target I shot with her. I set the target back to 75 ft and shot using the scope. It was a whole lot of fun!

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    Here's the target I shot with the LC9. All my bullets were way off to the left. I swear it wasn't me. I do believe the sights were off on this gun. I had the target set at around 7 yards.

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    Here's my target when I shot the Kahr P380. Again, the target was around 7 yards out.

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  6. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I didn't like the LC9 at all. It had a lot of kick and it was like trying to hold a wild animal. :(

    I then rented the Kahr .380 and I really liked shooting it. It was a fairly new rental gun, I was told, and it was pretty stiff and jammed more than I liked. But I really enjoyed shooting it. I liked it much better than the LC9.


    So, then I wandered upstairs where they sell the guns and started looking around. I looked at the LCP and the Kahr .380 side by side. I liked the trigger on the Kahr better. I decided I want a .380 rather than a 9mm. So then the salesman started showing me other guns he thought I might like. He showed me a Bersa Thuner 380 and I liked the fact that it's SA/DA. It was a very nice gun and I preferred it over the LCP or the Kahr, at this point. But if I remember right, it was pretty pricey. I also looked at a Kel Tec P-3AT. I forget what I didn't like about that one. I can't remember which gun I looked at that was in the $700 but one of them was.

    Then............we walked around the counter a ways and he showed me a Sig Sauer P238.

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    I think I fell in love the minute I pulled the trigger on that thing. It had the best trigger I've ever felt. It was the right size and it has a safety, which some of the others did not. It had night sights. But the trigger......oooh, the trigger........*stares off dreamily*
    THEN I looked back down in the case and saw the Sig Sauer P238 Lady.

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    and I instantly wanted one. Not only is it beautiful but I really liked the Sig Sauer P238 out of all the guns I handled today. The selling price was $549. I think a Sig is in my very near future.

    Please tell me what you all think. I will listen to any advice/comments/suggestions, etc. any of you are willing to throw my way.

    What do you all think? I would like to particularly hear from anyone who owns any of these guns and has experience with them.

    As always, thank you all for helping me along.
     
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  7. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    And as I sat staring at these guns.......and thinking.......there was a man standing next to me and he asked to see a Sig 9mm. I don't remember what model but it was a 'full sized' gun. He was excited as all get out as it was his very first gun purchase. We chatted for a couple minutes then I let him get on with his purchase. It was fun to see this guy making his first gun purchase. :)
     
  8. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I didn't like the LC9 at all. :( Of the two rental guns I shot, I preferred the Kahr P380 for ease of handling. That LC9 had some kick to it! I liked the .380 much better.

    I shot the whole 50 rounds of 9mm. I only shot 25 rounds of the .380. I figured I'd save the other 25 rounds to shoot out of my own .380.....when I buy one. Actually, I knew within 25 rounds I liked the .380 better. And I was kind of getting tired.
     
  9. texaswoodworker

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    Go for it Winds. Sig makes a fine gun. You may be able to talk them down a little on the price too.
     
  10. JTJ

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    OK Windy:) I like my P238 better than any of the other pocket 380's. It has shot everything I have fed it including flat nose and it is a pleasure to shoot. The woman that teaches the ccw classes at the range carries one and she has her choice of any gun in the place. She and her husband own the place. The Bersa is not an expensive gun. Should be around $300.
     
  11. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Sig P238, right? I'm still too new for you to think I know the P238 is the Sig. I had to check back and look. Yeah, I think I liked that one best, too.



    I forgot to mention today I experienced another 'first' while shooting. Caught hot brass in my bra today. YOW!! I thought I shook it out and kept shooting. Just now got into my pajamas to take a nap (remember I have a 'backwards' schedule) and that darned spent brass fell out of my bra when I took it off. ROFL!!
     
  12. texaswoodworker

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    LMAO!!!

    The Sig is priced a couple hundred dollars under MSRP, so its a good deal. Have you had a chance to put a couple rounds through one?
     
  13. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Windy: you need to stop wearing those low cut sexy tops to the range.;) Hmm, maybe thats why they are giving you a good price on the Sig.
     
  14. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    ROFL......I wasn't. The very first round out of the Kahr, the brass hit me in the forehead. After I shoot I always go in the bathroom and wash my hands, wipe my face and blow my nose. When I looked in the mirror I had a black streak from the spent casing on my forehead. Those guns sure wanted to show me 'who's my Daddy' today. :D
     
  15. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    No, I haven't.
     
  16. colmustard

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    Nice to hear you had a fun day at the range today! Looks like you may be getting a new gun also! Its funny how no matter how many guns you have there is still another one to get!:D
     
  17. CHLChris

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    No fair comparing a single-action 1911-style trigger (Sig P238) with that long double-action-only trigger of the Kahr P380! I do think the Kahr is one of the best DAO triggers out there, but that P238 is an awesome SA. If you carry it, though, you will need to spend a lot of time practicing the actions of draw, click off the safety as you extend, squeeze trigger. It must become 2nd nature. That's why many people who carry a P238 in their pocket are people who practice with and carry the larger-framed 1911's too.

    For me, I decided that an external safety isn't something I wanted to mess with for my carry guns. Just a choice for me, though.
     
  18. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I know I am new and not very experienced but I like the idea of a safety. Isn't it optional to keep the safety on or off? Can't one carry it with the
    safety off or does it automatically go to safety?

    Thank you for that input and descriptions of the different triggers. I need to learn these things. I guess I wasn't really comparing the different types of triggers, I was only looking at the action of the trigger. That Sig has one awesome trigger. That's all I know. But now I know why. :)

    So now if I buy that Sig P238 I need to get a 1911 to practice with? AWESOME!!!

    I do remember now the salesman telling me the Sig P238 was based on the 1911. I had a notebook and I was writing stuff down but I guess I didn't get it all.
     
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  19. texaswoodworker

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    Some guns have a actual saftey switch on them, other guns such as a Springfield XD have a long button type thingy on the backstrap of the grips that takes the safety off when you hold the gun properly.

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    3-Point safe action safety. (Trigger safety) (Glock)

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    Grip safety (It's that thing sticking out of the grips' backstrap) (XD)

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    Squeeze cocker safety (Its the wierd thing on the front of the grips) (only on HK P7s)

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    Thats just a few of the safetys pistols can have. Here is good site that explains each type, and names a few more. http://firearms.stackexchange.com/q...rious-types-of-semi-automatic-pistol-safeties


    You could also get a Sig 1911 to go with that P238 :D
     
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