Odd Ball .223 Rem

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by Justen.223, Feb 18, 2011.

  1. Justen.223

    Justen.223 New Member

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    Buddy of mine came by a couple days ago after a trip to the range. As usual, he grabs whatever loose brass that's laying around for me use. He scored big for me this go around, and brought by tons off brass including around 200-250 of .223 rem. So this evening, I decided to punch out 100 rounds. Every thing going smooth for the first few until I spot a case with a short shoulder. At first I just pitch it in the "junk brass" bucket and go on, then another, then another then another, and whoa....whats going on here..... So I meticulously dig through them all and low and behold there are exactly 20 rounds of this brass that just aint normal. The overall length is .025" shorter, and the shoulder is at a more flat angle than typical. Probably around 18 degrees. Neck length is normal. Below is a pic of one of these "odd balls" next to a typical. Both are clearly stamp F C 223 REM.

    Any thoughts?
     

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  2. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper New Member

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    Looks like it could be a .223 Ackley Improved to me.
    223 Rem + 223 AI Cartridge Guide
     

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  3. Justen.223

    Justen.223 New Member

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    I do believe you have clearly discovered what I obviously couldn't. Per the listed specs. this is it.

    Thanks a ton.

    I guess the next question is what to do with the brass? My press and dies don't like them.
     
  4. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper New Member

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    Give 'em away to someone with a 223 AI, build an AI to shoot them out of or just toss 'em in the Scrap bucket.:D
     
  5. Justen.223

    Justen.223 New Member

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    Sounds like a justifiable reason to me to build one, know to convince the wife. "But honey, I have this brass laying around that I have to use up!" :D
    She'll never bite though...
     
  6. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Gate nailed it before I saw the thread. Congrats Gate on beating the "Thread Killer" to the punch!

    As far as restoring it... You could aneal the neck/shoulder and resize it. Once anealed, your die will not balk so bad at it. On the other hand .223 brass is plentiful enough to just scrap it, it is only 20 pieces so it is not a big deal.

    I have never known anyone who owned a .223 AI so it is not very common.
     
  7. culdee

    culdee New Member

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    odd 223

    Just a word of warning for using range brass. Having picked up all my 223 brass at the range I ran it through my reloader and stuck it in my range bag. Next time out I had one heck of a jam, FTF. Finally jacked the round out and stuck it in my bag to check out later. Imagine my surprise when I looked at the head stamp and found it was a 222 round! Must have been from a prior shooter and happened to be where my brass was landing. It had fed through the dies just fine and even seated the bullet with no problem. Now I check every case I pick up.
     
  8. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    Justen,

    Being the weapon addicts that most of us are here on FTF! Having a whole 20 rounds of 223 AI brass would certainly constitute justification to build one!
    :D What do you think!

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  9. M14sRock

    M14sRock Active Member

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    This logic is infallible.

    My shooting partner just had his Rem700 Varmint rebarrelled from .223Rem to .223AI. It now wears a PacNor 18", and is "on the truck" back from the GS as I write this.
     
  10. Justen.223

    Justen.223 New Member

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    I just showed the the wife, rolling her eyes, she states "You them them guys they ain't helping matters, you need another gun like I need new shoes" :rolleyes:
    My response..."heels or athletic?"

    I couldn't help but laugh hysterically :cool:
     
  11. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    Justen

    We are like the friends your mother never wanted you to meet!!!!!
    Same way with wives!!!!!!

    We always like to be of help!!!

    Just remember! SEEKING FORGIVENESS is easier than GETTING PERMISSION!!!!