October 7th, 2010 Freedom of speech no longer allowed

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by opaww, Oct 8, 2010.

  1. opaww

    opaww New Member

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    Oath Keepers statement about video titled, “Government Agents Seize Oath Keeper’s New Born From Hospital”

    Oath Keepers » Blog Archive » Oath Keepers statement about video titled, “Government Agents Seize Oath Keeper’s New Born From Hospital”

    A little bit of a long read but was confirmed to be real. This means you can not have free speech, for fear of government retaliation. Everyone and I mean everyone needs to start flooding the offending agency with e-mails and letters and if you feel the need a donation to Oath Keepers to help with the legal issues.
     
  2. CA357

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  3. amoroque

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    Wow! To take a child away from its parents at birth is not only a sad situation, it could possible be detrimental to the health of the child. I can't believe this is happening in the USA!?!?!
     
  4. bkt

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    According to Stewart's site, there were several serious allegations in the affidavit that led to them black-bagging the kid. Being associated with OK was one of many allegations, but it does paint the author(s) of the affidavit in an extremely bad light. First, OK is not a militia. Second, they wish to pledge their support to the rule of law. Neither of these should be considered problematic.

    If the allegations are serious enough to take the child, did they also lock up both parents on criminal charges?
     
  5. alsaqr

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    Another catchy headline" ...Government takes Baby". Makes it sound like Obama ordered it done. Someone at OK convenienty failed to give the whole story. There is a history of domestic violence between Irish and his GF. According to folks in the comments section; Irish had a problem with police for carrying a concealed firearm.

    I had to dig long and hard through the far out stuff to find a viable account of the incident. Pardon me but this reads an awful lot like a trailer park novel. There is a time to go to bat for someone when that person is wronged. IMO: Irish is not worth the effort.

    State takes infant, spurs protest - Saturday, Oct. 9, 2010

     
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  6. CA357

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    Now that's a horse of a different color. Thanks for doing the digging Alsaqr.
     
  7. Seven

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    Here's a video where Irish and the mother were told be LEO's not to enter the hospital or they would be charged with criminal trespassing.

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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpJUgkIOx5o]YouTube - Oppression By Oath[/ame]


    Why would the State even list Irish's membership in the Oath Keepers or his buying guns in the first place?
     
  8. alsaqr

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    They most likely mentioned his buying of guns because the guy is a troublemaker of long standing. Irish has had runins with the law over guns.

    Go to the link and read the comments from the locals of that area.

    State takes infant, spurs protest - Saturday, Oct. 9, 2010

     
  9. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    Here more information on this matter. Local news station is now on it.

    Bomb-Sniffing Dogs Check Hospital During Protest - News Story - WMUR Manchester

    Bomb-Sniffing Dogs Check Hospital During Protest

    CONCORD, N.H. -- FBI bomb-sniffing dogs were at Concord Hospital on Friday after demonstrators gathered to protest a newborn being removed from her mother's care by the state.

    The hospital said there was no threat made, but it was taking precautions in part to reassure staff and patients.

    The child was taken by the Department of Children Youth and Families. The hospital said privacy laws prevent it from discussing the matter.

    The FBI left the hospital without finding anything threatening, and the hospital said it is operating normally.

    Stephanie Taylor said her infant daughter Cheyenne was taken into state custody. Taylor said she had two young sons removed from her care in 2009 due to abuse by a caretaker.

    The father, Johnathon Irish, said court paperwork cited his involvement with an organization called the Oath Keepers, dedicated to defending the constitution.

    While state officials cannot talk about this case, Lorraine Bartlett with the Division For Children Youth And Families said a child cannot be removed based on a parent's affiliation with an organization.
     
  10. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    Update from infowars, MSM is not saying a word! There is a 14:52 minute video.

    Irish Family Baby Returned

    Jonathan Irish appeared on the Alex Jones Show this evening and said his infant daughter, Cheyenne, was returned to him and his fiancé, Stephanie Taylor. The state of New Hampshire, citing neglect, had abducted the newborn at the Concord Hospital.

    Irish expressed his gratitude for the return of his daughter but said he was not at liberty to divulge details on the release due to a court gag order.

    Irish told Alex Jones that his name was confused with that of another man with a similar name. The second man apparently has a record of domestic abuse and violence.

    A court affidavit stated Jonathan Irish’s association with the Oath Keepers as one of the primary reasons the child was taken. “The Division became aware and confirmed that Mr. Irish associated with a militia known as the Oath Keepers and had purchased several different types of weapons, including a rifle, handgun and taser,” the affidavit states.

    The Oath Keepers was founded in March of 2009 in in Lexington, Massachusetts. The nonprofit organization advocates that its members, who are current and former U.S. military and law enforcement officers, uphold the Constitution of the United States should they be ordered to violate it. The Oath Keepers organization is not a militia as the court affidavit and corporate media insist.

    After Cheyenne was abducted by New Hampshire’s Division of Children, Youth and Families, authorities prevented Jonathon Irish from seeing his child. Authorities cited “security threats” as the reason for blocking visitation without explaining precisely what those threats were. Irish, his fiancé Stephanie and Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes appeared on the Alex Jones Show on October 11 to discuss this violation of basic visitation rights.

    On Friday, October 8, the FBI sent bomb-sniffing dogs into Concord Hospital to intimidate people who had gathered to protest against the snatching of a baby by the DCYF.

    On October 13, Stephanie Taylor voiced concerns when she discovered blood in her baby’s diaper during a supervised visit at the at a Strafford County administration building. After authorities determined there was “no indication of any abuse,” the child was returned to foster care.

    Will Bunch, writing for the Soros funded Media Matters for America, led a corporate media campaign to demonize Irish and characterize as a “bizarre right-wing campaign” the effort to have the child returned to its parents. Bunch writes that “the evidence is overwhelming that the girl was taken from Irish and the mother Stephanie Taylor at the hospital for the only reason that the government should take that extreme step: To ensure the safety of an otherwise helpless child.”

    Bunch’s assertion that CPS agencies protect children is at odds with the record. As the late Nancy Schaefer has documented, “child protection services” around the country have a record corruption and are often detrimental to the health and well-being of children. CPS agencies often act as legalized kidnapping services.

    Now that the court has admitted that the child was taken in error and Jonathan Bunch is in fact not an abusive father and the authorities had either confused or deliberately associated Irish with the behavior of another individual, Mr. Bunch and Media Matters should immediately apologize for slandering Irish, Taylor, and Alex Jones.

    Media Matters, however, will likely not apologize or set the record straight because this obviously conflicts with its agenda to demonize the growing patriot movement and portray constitutionalist groups like Oath Keepers as paranoid right-wing extremists.