Not sure what to go with

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by Cypher, Oct 16, 2011.

  1. Cypher

    Cypher New Member

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    Hey, I am new here, but have been on several other forums. Hopefully there are some new people with new perspectives on here.

    Im looking for a handgun, in 9mm. Im very familiar with the glock19 and beretta 92 platforms. I am wanting to get a used handgun more than likely. I hate revolvers.

    Ive looked at some of the following:
    Beretta 92/Taurus PT92
    Glock19
    S&W M&P9 (i rented the c version, liked it, but did poorly with it)
    SIG p250
    S&W 6906

    I dont really know what I would like. Right now, I am thinking about getting a glock and then getting a KelTec Sub2k to compliment it.

    At the same distances, I did better with a Taurus 92 than a G19, which was better than when I used the M&P9c.

    I guess the short version is what would be a good choice, and have you had experience with any of the above. Would you advise against any of the above, and if so, why.
     
  2. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Welcome to FTF!

    All the guns on your list are very fine, but many people hate taurus for different reasons (I'm not one of them, it's my opinion that they are decent guns). At this point I'd say just get the one your most comfortable/perform the best with.

    They are all from reputable and quality manufacturers, good warranties and customer service, and are very respectable pieces of iron. Again, some would make the exception on the taurus.

    I am curious though, why do you hate revolvers?
    There are many reasons people state, and many solutions to the average Joe's problem with them, and I would love to discuss this with you.
     

  3. Cypher

    Cypher New Member

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    I guess hate isnt the right word. Uncomfortable is a much more accurate term. See, I am 21. My family dont own guns other than me (I have two rifles). All handguns I have shot have been friends, or family friends, or range rentals.

    Ive handled two revolvers in my range trips compared to about 12 autoloaders. And both of them came with a heck of a learning curve.

    First time with pistols, they started me out on a Ruger MK3 .22. Then, Glock 19c. Then, they hand me a .357 mag stub nose. Yeaaaaah. Lil bit of a jump. (similar story with rifles that day. 10/22, AR15, AK74, Gew98. Owch. FUN, but owch when you arnt expecting it)

    Second time I was much more familiar with handguns, having delt with the glock more. I started the day with a Glock, then a taurus 92. And then time for the wheelgun. Taurus Judge. Started with .45Lc. It wasnt too bad. I guess with me being alot more used to handguns. But then the .410 was a bit of a shock.

    So, its not that I hate them, I just am not familiar with them, and because of that, I prefer the magazine reloading instead of cylinders. I plan on owning a revolver some day, but I dont really want one for my first. I feel a revolver would be something to go great with handloading, or at least starting in handloading.

    Ive heard similar of taurus (especially with the 92 version) I own a S&W rifle, Love it, and like the company. I really like the M&P, but I also like glock.

    I really like the 92 platform, and I am thinking about getting a used Beretta, but they are considerably more than most of the other choices I am looking at. For a New beretta, I could get a used G19 and the Sub2k. (II like this idea because I own two .22's, but no shotguns, handguns, or large rifles)
     
  4. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Well to each his own...
    For the record though, whoever put you on a snubbie .357 didn't do you any favors.

    Personally I love revolvers, particularly S&W double actions, any of them.

    They do take some getting used to, and if your more comfortable with auto loaders, then that is the most respectable argument for them.

    Whatever your most comfortable with on your list is what I would go with.
    I don't really care for GLOCKs myself (aesthetic reasons mostly), but I'm very accurate with them, go figure. And a sub2000 would make a pretty good cool companion for it.

    I really don't see much advice to give you other than that. It sounds like you've checked these all out, pretty much the decision is up to you.
     
  5. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Check this one out. Model 65-2 in .357 magnum (BTW you know they can shoot .38 special right?) And a couple of little things I changed on it.
     

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  6. Austin1

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    Are you opposed to metal frame guns
     
  7. Cypher

    Cypher New Member

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    Trip: that looks beautiful. And wouldnt be as bad as the stub i shot. And the .38 is a great part in that of itself.


    Austin: Not at all. I was looking at a PPK/s but decided against .380. The SW 6906 is all metal. I would consider 1911's, but not for a first gun (they are generally around here 700+ used or some abortion of silver and gold (taurus celebration models)
     
  8. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Yes a 4" bbl doesn't jump around nearly as much as a snubbie. Mine in particular I feel has grips that are a bit to slender and coming from me that means a lot as I have pretty small hands for being a 6' 220 pound guy. Hence the block of wood in the first pic, I'm working on building my own grips.
     
  9. Cypher

    Cypher New Member

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    Yeah, Im 5'10 220lbs, and well, small grips dont agree with me. I looked breifly at a ruger LC9 and the super tiny keltec. Just...no.

    However, a walther P22 feels great. Yay for double standards.
     
  10. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    The grips on mine are too narrow front to back, and allow my hand to ride up too high. There is a grip adapter for it, but carving on a piece of wood is free so I'm going to try that route first, plus it's something I can take pride in-my own workmanship. I've smoothed the trigger face, bobbed the hammer, stoned all the internals, and smoothed all the pins. It functions slick as snot. Haven't had a chance to shoot it since bobbing the hammer and I worry the hammer may be too light (sometimes happens after an operation like that) but I have a spare. My next step is to get a reduced weight trigger return spring (it's the one most responsible for the trigger pull weight).

    I'm not trying to sell you on getting one, I just like to talk about mine!
     
  11. Cypher

    Cypher New Member

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    Haha I absolutely understand that!

    I am sure if I get a glock I will probably get the low profile laser for it, and some Houge grips. My S&W M&P15 22 Ive already changed the front sight, added a sling mount, and added a carry handle mounted scope.
     
  12. USMC_Richey

    USMC_Richey New Member

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    I got two letters and two numbers for you: M9A1.

    Done sir done. :D
     
  13. Cypher

    Cypher New Member

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    no complaints here, cept finding them at a reasonable price
     
  14. G8R8U2

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    If you shot the Beretta 92 well, I'd go with that. They can be had with a pretty wide variety of setups, finishes, and accessories.

    If cost is an issue, Taurus makes one that's significantly less expensive, and I've never had any issues with them. I had a Taurus 92C back when they still made the compact version, and my roomate said he liked it better than his full size Beretta 92 when we shot at the range all the time.

    Honestly, you could probably get a brand new Taurus with a lifetime warranty around the same price as the used Beretta, and you wouldn't have to wonder what the previous owner of the Beretta put the gun through.
     
  15. Cypher

    Cypher New Member

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    Yeah, That is one thing that I have had in mind. I really like the slide safety and alot of other factors on the 92. Im not really looking for a CC at the moment either. When I went to the range I shot the Taurus 92, and it was great for me.

    I do love the lifetime warranty too. They are certainly still on the table of consideration. Right now its still a fight between glock and 92
     
  16. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    The only thing I don't like about the 92 is that the grip is just to bulky for me. That and my holster kept disengaging the safety, as the holster was new, not broke in at all, and had a thumb strap the wrapped around the back of the slide, over the hammer and safety; it would pinch the gun and drive the safety lever up.

    As a bedside or truck gun, nothing wrong with it at all as long as your comfortable with it.

    Many people have talked a lot of smack about it, but the one I was issued never gave me a malfunction of any type, I only knew 2 people who did have a problem, and one of those turned out to be operator error.
     
  17. G8R8U2

    G8R8U2 New Member

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    Both pretty good choices, but I definitely have an aversion to striker-fired pistols, so I don't care for Glocks at all. Too many accidents with the striker-fired pistols, even by professionals.

    Personally, recoil is rarely an issue for me, and I love some kick in a gun; but if you're sensitive to it, as you stated in your original post, you're going to appreciate a steel gun over a polymer one in the same caliber. I've shot the Glock and 92 back-to-back, and the difference in recoil, even in 9mm, is noticeable.

    As you'll realize the more you shoot and shop, personal preference plays a big part in what you buy. Everybody has their own likes and dislikes, as well as their own hand dimensions and sensitivities. It's good that you've tried out a few to give you a better idea of what suits you.
     
  18. Cypher

    Cypher New Member

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    Yeah. Im not really afraid of recoil, Im just not used to it. When I rented the MP9c I was handling it fine, and a buddy came along. He brought his TT33 tokerev in 7.62x25. WOOO! That was exciting. Surprised the heck out of me.

    I went and looked again today, and against all my better judgement, I am still falling in love with the PPK and similar. The store had a Bersa Firestorm that seems to be a clone of the PPK, for half the price. They had a used Interarms PPK/s for 330 before tax, and the Bersa they told me would be 300 out the door new. I also asked about the ammo cost, and they said they stocked .380 for about 16 a box compared to 14.50 for 9, So its not that bad. Im probably going to rent one and test it out.

    Another that I am really liking is the Sig P250. That is the best DAO trigger I have ever felt. Long reset is the only thing I dislike about it. And New with two mags for 331 out the door is snazzy too.
     
  19. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    cypher, check out the Springfield Armory XDm models. when i was looking at replacing my Walther P99QA in 40 i had traded a couple of years ago, i thought about the Glock 22 or 23. the gun store had just taken a SA XDM40 in trade, and he showed it to me. well i have shot a few glocks in the past, and liked them. but after shooting the XDm40, it is one of the best shooting pistols i have ever owned. try one out and see if it something you might be interested in. if i run across a good deal on a glock, yes i will buy it, just because they are good pistols and have an excellent reputation. good luck in your selection.
     
  20. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    cypher, on a side note, i bought the Bersa Thunder 380 for my wife a couple of months ago, nice little 380 pistol. recoil spring is a little strong, but shoots decent enough for a 380. i gave $270+ tax for hers. (NIB)