Not all email are legit.

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by opaww, Jun 10, 2012.

  1. opaww

    opaww New Member

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    This group Conservative-Daily.com is supposedly a right wing pro-gun group, who is fighting to help keep your gun rights. They are connected to Shuffling Madness Media of Parker, Colo a fax blast solicitations, company which is responsible for many of the fax blasts you are asked to pay for so they can send congress massive faxes against any of the anti-gun measures that may be coming up for a vote. They are also partnered with Reap Global, Inc., business consulting partnership, also of Parker, Colo.

    Now you might ask what this has to do with anything important and you might think this is a good thing. What this group boils down to is they send out many emails of a scare tactic nature asking for donations to fight this latest anti-gun attempt. Most of the fax blasts they send out are well out of date, such as S. 176 a bill that anti-rights Sen. barbara boxer d-Cal. submitted to the Senate in Jan of 2011 the bill made it no place and had no co-sponsors, the bill is over a year old and the eblast was sent out in May of this year.

    The email tend to not lie but not tell the truth either, The lie; they make it sound as though this is happening right now and the urgency for money is needed to help fight this travesty of anti-rights legislations up before our legislature. Not telling anyone that this bill has died in congress. The truth; yes it was once a bill actually submitted and had it of made it to the floor for a vote and passed the senate, and gone to and passed the house it would have been devastating to gun owners.

    I suspect many more emails go out from these people and I use the term lightly, regarding gun-rights that have long been dead then anyone knows and many may be under a subsidiary of this group. Any time you receive an email from someone asking for money be suspect of its intentions. Do a fast check yourself with Library of Congress THOMAS to see just where the bill is and even if they have a record of it. Like the old bill that seems to creep up every year in emails that will make it law that every gun owner must list there guns on their tax forms. This bill was dead over 11 years ago and never made it any place in our legislature except the joke file.

    But they still use it to ask for money

    opaww
     
  2. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    good one Opaww. i delete all unsolicited emails when asked for money.
     

  3. PanBaccha

    PanBaccha New Member

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    Exactly. Delete, delete, delete. Oh, how sweet it sounds. :D
     
  4. alsaqr

    alsaqr Well-Known Member Supporter

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    What opaww said.

    Pro-gun organizations will lie, distort the truth and omit details to get your hard earned money. Ammo peddlers, gun dealers and gunshow promoters spread this trash like wildfire. Nearly every week i get an e-mail warning me of some impending legislation that will take our guns away. A favorite is H.R. 45 (111th): Blair Holt’s Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act. Despite the fact that US Rep. Bobby Rush presents this bill every year; it garners few or no co-sponsors. When a bill has few or no co-sponsors it goes nowhere.

    NAGR is another CO based alarmist organization with a big "donate now" sign on their home page. Dudley Brown of NAGR told an outrageous lie on a gun forum and was caught. Folks on that forum pummeled him badly.

    http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/12...tional_Association_for_Gun_Rights.html&page=1
     
    Last edited: Jun 11, 2012
  5. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    Some of these guys are out of control, and NAGR is right at the top

    of the "outrageous" list. I had them remove me from their mailing list

    after I received in the mail what looked like a legal firm's notification

    I was being sued. Turns out it was NAGR begging mail.


    I(we) need that kind of stress in our mailbox?

    THAT's our reward, for joining the organization, and

    supporting the cause?
     
  6. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    It is shredding all incoming snail mail asking for donations, refinance your house, etc.
     
  7. AIKIJUTSU

    AIKIJUTSU New Member

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    Thanks for the info, y'all. I quit the NRA back in the middle 90's because that's what Wayne La Pierre was doing. Then when I sent him a week's pay, he sent back by return mail an insulting accusation that I was a cheapskate for not sending more money.
     
  8. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    Stickied as this happens a lot and that junk turns up in posts here causing trouble.
     
  9. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    when it comes to spam email, the delete button is your friend!
     
  10. St8LineGunsmith

    St8LineGunsmith New Member

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    I sign their petetions but I dont send them money
     
  11. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    But you do notice how they tie the two together closely, right?

    The truth is they could give a rat's a$$ about our signature on

    a petition.

    IT'S JUST BEGGING MAIL.
     
  12. ellis36

    ellis36 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I finally figured that out and stopped participating in any of it.
     
  13. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    Actually, for a while, I used to send the

    petitions back signed, with no money,

    just to piss them off.

    But they literally will nag you to death.

    I truly feel sorry for anybody who

    buys into their BS. That's a shame,

    and IMHO, shameful that any organization

    should lack the proper ethics and code of

    moral conduct to act in this manner,

    towards it's supporters.
     
  14. Rentacop

    Rentacop New Member

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    Guys :
    I used to contribute to Neal Knox's Firearms Coalition . He was a great man and I hope his heirs are running that group as well as he did . IIRC, the URLs were www.nealknox.com and www.firearmscoalition.org .

    Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership ( www.jpfo.org ) is a great group but is intended more for research and information than political action .

    Wayne LaPierre has pretty much redeemed himself by counter-attacking the anti-gunners with everything the NRA had after strategically waiting a few days . He is not the same person he was in the 1980s .

    Years ago, I joined several organizations only to find their fund-raising to be as annoying as the NRA's . GOA sent me the same survey petition at least 5 times. CCRKBA seemed to do very little . SAF sent some good literature but I wasn't sure how much they were doing .
     
  15. Rentacop

    Rentacop New Member

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    Guys :
    I used to contribute to Neal Knox's Firearms Coalition . He was a great man and I hope his heirs are running that group as well as he did . IIRC, the URLs were www.nealknox.com and www.firearmscoalition.org .

    Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership ( www.jpfo.org ) is a great group but is intended more for research and information than political action .

    Wayne LaPierre has pretty much redeemed himself by counter-attacking the anti-gunners with everything the NRA had after strategically waiting a few days . He is not the same person he was in the 1980s .

    Years ago, I joined several organizations only to find their fund-raising to be as annoying as the NRA's . GOA sent me the same survey petition at least 5 times. CCRKBA seemed to do very little . SAF sent some good literature but I wasn't sure how much they were doing .
     
  16. SgtSydney

    SgtSydney New Member

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    when it comes to spam email, the delete button is your friend!
     
  17. spottedpony

    spottedpony New Member

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    I dropped the NRA for much the same reasons, only in the early 80's, in addition to the fact I'd recieve several NRA solicitations a week, begging for money for this or that cause.
    What really turned me against making donations to "worthy" causes was non firearms related.

    For many years I'd make a sizable donation to the National Federation for the Blind. One year in particular times were tough, work being slow, and i felt i couldnt contribute my past normal donation, so i sent them a smaller amount. They actually had the unmitagated gall to bill me for the remaining "balance".

    The biggest issue for me with any organization begging donations, relates to a news report years ago. It became a public issue that the president, CEO, head honcho, what ever you want to call it, of the Red Cross, was drawing an exorbitantly high wage for what was advertised as a "non-profit" organization.
    I'm sure Wayne Lapierre and leaders of other organizations are in similiar circumstances. My point being, would they be such staunch supporters of the given cause if they were donating their time or recieving minimum wage instead of unrealistic benefits? Even the president of the United States recieves only a paltry wage compared to the immense responsibility that job entails, and you can bet the leaders of these organizations recieve much more in comphensation.
     
  18. gr8oldguy

    gr8oldguy New Member

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    All special interest groups lie, I don't care who they are or what they are trying to sell. I ignore all of them.
     
  19. Warrior1256

    Warrior1256 New Member

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    Thanks for the heads up.