Non ACP type round semi

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by rferguson61, Aug 18, 2012.

  1. rferguson61

    rferguson61 New Member

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    Does anyone know if there is any semi autos that doesn't take an ACP style round. I want something to carry when i'm camping/hiking. The general concensus is that a revolver is the way to go (more reliable and heftier rounds). But I prefer the pack-a-bility of a semi. I was thinking around a .45 but the only thing I can find in a semi is a .40 S&W or a .45 ACP.
     
  2. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Don't quite understand. Are you wanting a rimmed magnum cartridge in a semi auto? If that's the case, the two I know of right off the top are the desert eagle (.357 mag, .44 mag, .50 AE) and the Coonan arms .357 mag 1911.
     

  3. rferguson61

    rferguson61 New Member

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    Yeah (I don't know technical terms sorry :/) but yes. A revolver cartridge (.44 mag, .45 lc, etc) in a semi frame. Im told that an auto round wont do anything against an animal. I live in Oregon, we've got lots of bears here...but im way more concerned with cats than bears.
     
  4. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Those are the two I know of. There's probably more. There is also the 460 Rowland conversion. .44 mag performance from a 1911.
     
  5. rferguson61

    rferguson61 New Member

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    Thanks for the info!
     
  6. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    The problem you are going to run into is that the guns end up with very large grips to accomodate the rimmed magnum rounds. Also those rims can effect reliable feeding. i wouldn't want a jammed up magnum in the face of a bear or mountain lion.

    The 10mm approaches .41 Magnum power but was designed as an autoloader from the beginning. You can get a Glock model 20 or there are 1911 autos made for this round. Plus you are toting 15 rounds of magnum level performance in each mag in the Glock.
     
  7. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    Oh, and my brother in law dispatched a mountain lion in California with his Kahr .40 if you were really concerned about the performance of a auto handgun round working on the big cats. That .40 round is a short version of the 10mm auto. Kind of what the .38 is to the .357 mag.
     
  8. Olympus

    Olympus New Member

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    For reference ACP means Automatic Colt Pistol.
     
  9. marc29th

    marc29th New Member

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    I also would recommend looking at the 10mm if you want an Auto as a camping/hiking gun. You can get either a Glock 20 or 29 for right around $575-$600.
     
  10. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    I think your missing the "other" reason most folks pick revolvers when 4 legged threats are the concern.

    Besides the added power rimmed magnum cartridges provide is the inherent ruggedness and reliability of the revolver.

    Most cat and bear attack I've read about that involved a "live" person resulted in shots fired at "contact" distance.

    Auto Pistol reliability has come a very long way but pressing the muzzle into a critter can push them out of battery and more or less, disable your gun. Revolvers do not have this problem.

    Show me a professional hunting guide who packs an auto and I'll show you a green pea guide...;)

    Tack
     
  11. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Look at the .38 Super.
    .30 Luger
    AK Pistol
    AR Pistol
    Hog Leg pistol
    9X18 Walther
     
  12. B5Dan

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    There are other pistols that are chambered in 10mm besides the Glock, but I think they fixed the Glocks so that they don't blow up as much any more. The 10mm is an amazing cartridge. Well worth your consideration. Look for full full chamber support so you can run the "hot" stuff
     
  13. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    another problem with a pistol like the Desert Eagle is the sheer size and weight of it. think carrying a rifle amount of weight on your hip! a 10mm is probably going to be your best choice if wanting a semi auto pistol.
     
  14. Overkill0084

    Overkill0084 Active Member

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    It's all about cartridge selection.
    As stated previously, 10 mm ticks a lot of the right boxes. Guns for it are pretty easy to find. Glock, various 1911s and the EAA Witness pistols. If you want to up it a notch, check out the .460 Rowland.
    http://460rowland.com/
    Have your cake & eat it too.