Noisy Cricket Commando...new term

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by Tackleberry1, May 22, 2012.

  1. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    It happened again...last Sunday I ran up to my gun club to ring out 2 of my 1911's after replacing their recoil springs.

    Another member and his wife show up with two guests, a couple in the mid 40's. As there setting up I hear the member telling the RSO that neither of his guests had ever fired a gun before.:eek:

    This is where I lock and clear my weapons and step back from the firing line to watch.

    Our member goes into his range bag and begins producing a handful of noisy crickets? Ruger LCP, Kel Tech P380, Kahr PM 380, Ect, Ect, Ect...:eek:

    Shortly into the session it painfully obvious that neither of the guests are enjoying the menu so I offer to let them shoot my Colt Series 80.

    It's uncanny how an absolute noob can shrink there shot group 2/3rds simply by putting them behind a proper firearm. It's even more amazing how they go from, "ouch this sucks", :mad:to "hey, I'm sorta good at this".:)

    Ladies and Gentlemen, please do not take the time and effort to introduce new folks to our sport only to show them a ****ty time behind ****ty guns.

    Beating up on pocket autos is not my intent, they have there place, it's just NOT in the hands of noob shooters. Let these folks have fun with guns that are fun to shoot first. Once you've created a new shooter, new 2A voter, and a new CCW holder, THEN you can show them your noisy crickets. :)

    Tack
     
  2. kytowboater

    kytowboater Active Member

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    Well written tack. I agree that a bad first experience means a potential lost person to the sport.
     

  3. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Thumbs up. Those "Noisy Crickets" are not fun to shoot. I got rid of my Kel-Tec P3AT in a hurry. I bought it used so I did not get hurt but I fully understand why the guy I got it from sold it. Sig P238 is a good shooter. Shot it before I bought it. That 1911 was probably a pleasure for them to shoot after the mouse guns.
     
  4. Olympus

    Olympus New Member

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    There is a place for pocket autos, but Family Fun Day at the range is NOT one of them!
     
  5. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Good move on allowing them to shoot your handgun.

    When introducing new people to our activities, there are some things we should do.
    Stress safety (including ear and eye protection),
    Not make the targets too hard to hit (move them a little closer),
    And provide them with a firearm that gives them the best chance to hit with.

    (You should've asked the owner how well he shot his crickets. Then move the targets out and demonstrate what a larger handgun can do.)
     
  6. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    I posted a similar event that happened with another club member about a year ago, he had two young ladies, noob's, shooting similar noisy crickets and flinching the entire time. That day I was breaking in a new CZ75B 9 mm and put the young ladies behind it with the same result. Frowns turned upside down :) and they really got onto it, actually began competing between each other for the best shot group.

    Since that time I always make sure I've got at least 1 full size all metal auto and 100 rounds for it in my range bag...just in case.

    We never know when the opportunity to create a shooter will arise so I try to be prepared.

    I've not yet pulled the offending members aside to discuss their poor choice of
    introductory hand guns. They'd have to pretty thick to not take the hint.:cool:

    Tack
     
  7. fmj

    fmj Active Member

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    Had a similar experience...

    "big stud boy" shows up with "Hot chicks". "Stud boy" starts prancing and strutting like a cock rooster. He breaks out is cricket in .40 cal and it becomes painfully obvious very quickly all three "hot chicks" are noobs and NOT liking whats happening/not enjoying themselves. :mad:

    Enter FMJ and politely suggests to "hot chicks" they might enjoy shooting what he has to offer a bit more. he then offers up the Springer loaded and/or the 686 with some "light loads" he uses for youngest son. :)

    They really began to enjoy themselves. :)FMJ slid right into one of his favorite roles and thats instructing new shooters and was having a great time in his role and enjoying the presence of hot chicks on the range.:D:D

    After less than 1/2 hour of this happy time, "Stud boy" takes offense. Huffs and puffs and tells "hot chicks" in nasty tones "I'M leaving.... NOW!!" :mad:

    Happy time ends:( Fmj goes back to shooting by himself with a little less enjoyment/gusto than before:(
     
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  8. HOSSFLY

    HOSSFLY New Member

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    Your a class act no matter what these other guys say :p
     
  9. MrWray

    MrWray New Member

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    I agree 100%, good job for stepping up and showing them a good first experience.
     
  10. Overkill0084

    Overkill0084 Active Member

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    Good Job.
    Why would someone have a bag full of the things? Much less hand one to a new shooter?
     
  11. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    when i go to public ranges and always have my ruger mk3 with suppressor for just such an occasion. ive helped quite a few folks overcome some nervous scaredy-catness to having a "OMFG THIS IS AWESOME!!!" kind of day.

    even grown crusty old goats who have been shooting for decades get that 7yr old at xmas look on their faces when they shoot that gun heh.
     
  12. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    I don't follow? My range bag will hold 8 handguns, ammo for all of them, plus safety gear, targets, staple gun...why wouldn't you have a range bag full of things?
     
  13. pagj17

    pagj17 New Member

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    I think he means a bag full pf pocket autos.
     
  14. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    I don't follow? My range bag will hold 8 handguns, ammo for all of them, plus safety gear, targets, staple gun...why wouldn't you have a range bag full of things?
     
  15. Overkill0084

    Overkill0084 Active Member

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    I do have a shooting bag full of things. Just not those things (Pocket pistols.) ;)
     
  16. BlueTurf

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    There are a couple of things that can ruin the experience for a new shooter. Just as you described above, shooting the "crickets" can leave a bad impression. In addition to not liking the feel of a gun, most shooters cannot shoot very accurately with them without much practice. The BIG handguns can leave a bad impression on beginners also. Using a hand cannon for the very first handgun experience can be unpleasant. More than just a few times I have seen someone use a .44 Magnum to teach someone to shoot a handgun, and to me this is just plain unwise. I am big 1911 fan but I think a full-size 9mm is perfect for the beginner shooter, even a .22 LR. Learning the proper grip, stance and sight alignment is important for accuracy and comfort. I use my Ruger Mark II target model for beginners. It is as big as many popular full-sized handguns. I then move on to the 9mm, .45acp, .357 mag, etc. If and only when I think they are ready I will let them shoot my Ruger Super Blackhawk in .44 mag.

    I have also seen people give their young children a .12 gauge for their very first shotgun, when a .410 or .20 gauge would have been better.
     
  17. therewolf

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    IME starting folks out on .22 range guns is a great start.

    I never cease to be amazed at the number of folks

    who fall right into firing my 1911A1 or Beretta92,

    and enjoy it,

    after starting out with the Ruger MK2 and Marlin 60.

    "Noisy Crickets", I like that.
     
  18. levelcross

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    Gotta say GOOD JOB on the proper way to show new shooters a good time.

    Crickets...I Love it.

    Once at the LGS my daughter saw a guy looking at a .22 Derringer and asks me (not quietly enough) if it goes tink. You should have seen the look on his face, he was pissed and it was priceless.
     
  19. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    Aha...I misread your initial comment ang agree, 1 cricket should be all you need.
     
  20. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    I have a Ruger 22/45 and a Heritage Rough Rider that are great for new shooters. I always try to start new shooters with a .22 pistol. The sad thing is that there are a bunch of idiots out there that think it is funny to scare a new shooter with too much gun. I say again, "Idiots".