Nice pair - A400 Xcel Sportings

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  1. indy36

    indy36 New Member

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    Big Blue got a friend today. Meet Little Blue
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  2. Virginian

    Virginian Active Member

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    That's a bit too much blue for me, but they shoot well. Ain't real high on the green ones either.
     

  3. indy36

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    I love them. Soft shooting, well made, and boy do they crush clays. I've had stack barrels and side-by-sides, and to each their own, but these just fit me. The .12 is a skeet machine.


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  4. JCS53

    JCS53 That looks like it hurt Lifetime Supporter

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    Just got done putting 100 through the extreme... What a great gun!! ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1412453536.524309.jpg
     
  5. ryan2809

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    I broke down and bought the xtreme also[​IMG]
     
  6. JCS53

    JCS53 That looks like it hurt Lifetime Supporter

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    Where is it?? Lol... It's a joy to shoot!! I put 2 3/4.. 3 inch and 3 1/2 magnums through it yesterday and no worse for the wear!! My Rem. 887 would have broke my shoulder!
     
  7. ryan2809

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    Will the kickoff break in a little? It handles the 3.5 inch better than anything else I've shot but not the 70% recoil reduction they claim but I've only put 100 target loads and about 10 3.5's through it.
     
  8. JCS53

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    Yes it will
     
  9. Gonzilla

    Gonzilla New Member

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    Doubt it will ever approach the marketing hype. Would be great thread evaluating all the alledged "recoil reducers on the mkt. Not cheap either.

    Lengthen forcing cones
    back Bored barrels.
    Porting - ported chokes
    Weights - fore & aft (types of weights)
    Various types of piston/spring recoil reducers
     
  10. Virginian

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    My experience:
    Lengthen forcing cones - does have some effect. Could detect the difference 94% of the time, BUT could not quantitatively evaluate it. Didn't feel softer so much as different.
    back Bored barrels. - no effect on felt recoil that we could tell. Contrary to popular belief, with some loads, did get a slight velocity increase.
    Porting - ported chokes - zero effect on recoil in a shotgun. Some people do believe they can get less muzzle rise with the right porting.
    Weights - fore & aft (types of weights) - more weight will definitely directly affect felt recoil. Newton was right.
    Various types of piston/spring recoil reducers - Every one I have yet tried did seem to reduce recoil, but almost every one of them add weight too, so small surprise. Benelli's two piece stocks work with no added weight, but I hate for a gun to not behave like a one piece entity.
     
  11. indy36

    indy36 New Member

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    I can tell you with 100% certainty that the kick off stock on the .12 Xcel Sporting reduces recoil wonderfully. This is a very soft shooting .12
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