Next pistol to purchase?

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by painted_klown, Dec 17, 2008.

  1. painted_klown

    painted_klown New Member

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    Hello all. I am sure this question pops up quite frequently but I feel it's always best to "ask the experts".:D

    I recently purchased a Hi-Point 9mm and have had the WORST luck with it....see my rant and full story in "Info for cheap pistols to purchase" thread found here. http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7169&page=5

    I also bought a Ruger MKIII 22/45 .22lr and absolutely LOVE it! I did have some issues figuring out how to disassemble/reassemble it and I ended up scratching up the rear top of the pistol (right behind the rear sight, where the pin is that you have to remove) and breaking the rear sight the first day I had it. :mad: I am severely frustrated with myself because after 3 days of messing with it I finally figured it out and could have saved myself lots of frustration and damage to my pistol. Thankfully, I am pretty sure I can just replace the rear sight and the rest of the damage will just be merely cosmetic. It still sucks though.......essentially ruining my first nice pistol just because I am not very mechanically inclined and have a fascination with how firearms work. :eek:

    Anyway...now to my question. I am looking at possibly making another pistol purchase in the near future. I am considering possibly a nice 9mm. You know, one that will actually shoot when I pull the trigger...or maybe getting yet another caliber altogether.

    I am thinking if I go with another caliber I would like something that would be reasonably cheap to shoot. I shot .22lr all summer long and now it seems like it's almost killing me to pay 25 cents a round for 9mm. :eek: I am too poor....lol!!! Also in selecting another caliber I want to get something that will be practical to own. What I mean is a caliber that is very common and a pistol that is easy to find accessories, high capacity mags, and parts for. Of course, cost of ammo and pistol are a big factor for me.

    One idea was of course to take the plunge and get a 1911. My local guy has a new one for $425.00. It's a cheaper, no frills model but it's a 1911 none the less. I believe its a Century arms...don't quote me on that....my only hesitations would be recoil (how bad is it for a 1911?) The cartridges (.45 acp) are HUGE and I expect quite a kick from it.....and the cost per shot......45 acp ammo isn't very economical.

    I am NOT stuck on any certain caliber, or even on the idea of getting something other than a nice 9mm.

    Any ideas, thoughts, suggestions?

    Thanks for reading.
     
  2. freefall

    freefall New Member

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    .45 ACP recoil really isn't that bad. The lovely Mrs. Freefall (5'6" 130 lb) loves it in her Officers ACP. My daughter shot my 1911 A1 well when she was 12. I suppose it's a bit stiffer than a 9, but not enough to whine about. 9mm ammo is cheaper, and high-cap 9s are certainly thicker on the ground than high-cap .45s. If high-cap is a big issue to you, go for the 9 by all means. I myself would probably buy that .45 for $400 or whatever. Trade him that hi-point pos.
     

  3. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    45 ACP is mild-mannered shooting. But my question is, why go with another autoloader? You said you were mechanically inept, so with that being said you should look at getting a good revolver. They are much simpler to take care of and they conserve ammo by comparison.

    It's just a suggestion...
     
  4. Kevin Harvey

    Kevin Harvey New Member

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    I would suggest the Springfield Armory XD 40.

    The ability to take it down to field strip does not need a person that is Mechanically inclined.

    Easy, first make sure it is unloaded, rotate the lever, slide the slide forward and off. Very easy....:)
     
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  5. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    It sounds like you've learned of the Hi Point's limitations and you've learned some of your limitations. That will make you a better firearms owner.

    The .45ACP is fine to shoot, don't sweat the recoil. It's really just kind of a strong push and no big deal.
     
  6. Bigcat_hunter

    Bigcat_hunter New Member

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    A 1911 would be a great choice. If your looking for a cheap but good one check out Taurus. They make a nice 1911 for a real good price. I sell the bare bones ones for $530.00. They also have a $75.00 rebate through December.
     
  7. SGT-MILLER

    SGT-MILLER New Member

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    I will throw in my opinion of looking at the Rock Island Armory or Springfield Armory 1911 pistols before going with Taurus. Cheaper and you'll get a better quality deal.
     
  8. Flint Rock

    Flint Rock New Member

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    I suppose there is a way to measure recoil other than by shooting a gun and renendering an opinion, but I don't know how it is done. To me at least a 40 S&W has more recoil than a 45 ACP, but like I said, that's just me. Down at the local Wally World ammo for 40 and 45 is within a few cents of each other per box. So all that said, I chose a 45, a 1911 at that. I have a Wilson Combat 22 conversion that spends a good bit of time installed on my gun. The 22 is cheap to shoot and builds muscle memory for me (of course you can get 22 conversions for other guns,,,,,,,,, Glocks also:D.)
     
  9. Bigcat_hunter

    Bigcat_hunter New Member

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    If you can find a Springfield Armory 1911 for less than a Taurus than buy it. Springfield makes a very nice 1911 but they are not cheap, on par with Kimber. You can probably find a mil spec Springfield for under $700.00. Thats "Mil Spec",...The base model.
     
  10. painted_klown

    painted_klown New Member

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    Thanks for the input everybody. :)

    I am going to look around for a bit and see what all I can find in regards to getting a deal on something.

    I will keep you all posted as to what I finally decide on.
     
  11. SGT-MILLER

    SGT-MILLER New Member

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    Bigcat_Hunter posted:
    In my neck of the woods a Springfield Mil-Spec GI .45 retails for around $650 dollars, and the Taurus 1911 is retailing for the same amount or slightly higher.

    Keep in mind this is the base model GI model Springfield. It has the original ejection port, small safety, arched mainspring housing, the whole "retro" package. Still, in this day and age, sometimes simpler is better. :)

    I guess it all depends on what the prices are in your area. 95% of all firearms prices seem to be well below MSRP in my area (with exception of Kimbers, Glocks, XDs, and most revolvers which seem to be a little more expensive).

    I will add that I believe you can't go wrong with Rock Island Armory. For the price they make a very nice, no-frills 1911 that looks mean, and will do the job nicely.
     
  12. Recon 173

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    Go Glock and don't look back. Get yourself a Glock 17 and you're golden for most shooting needs. Glocks are what the other guns wish they could be...
     
  13. SGT-MILLER

    SGT-MILLER New Member

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    Glock pistols are decent, but they are flawed.

    My biggest problem is the issues involving correct head spacing. There's been alot of accounts of Glocks going kB! in people's hands because of this. As far as I understand, the 3rd generation Glocks may have this problem fixed, but I'm not sure.

    http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/g30kb.html

    (Look at the sidebar on this link and you'll see other models of Glocks that went kB!)

    If you want a pistol that has stood the test of time, and has proven itself, then go for the 1911 pistol. The 1911 is the "daddy" so to speak. If you are looking for something different, and you are not a 1911 fan, then go with the CZ pistols.

    Here's a couple more links regarding the issues with Glocks:

    http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/hhnj.html

    http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/g19-kb.html

    http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/g17-breaks.html

    http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/glock-kb2.html

    http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/glock-kb-faq.html
     
  14. Recon 173

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    As an instructor for a police agency, I have literally been around hundreds and hundreds of Glock pistols in every caliber that they make. Stories about Glocks being unreliable just aren't true. Somebody has an agenda and it's not me.

    The three best handguns, most reliable handguns are Rugers, Glocks and Sig Sauers. I would not hesitate to use any one of these guns in a bad situation. I own guns from all 3 of these makers and have used some for over 20 years without any problems at all.

    The absolute worst guns that I have ever seen on our range were the S&W Sigma 9 mm pistols. We had two guys who were forced to ship their Sigmas back to S&W three times each to have them fixed! Finally S&W gave up and shipped them back a couple of replacement 59 series pistols.

    More and more special ops personnel are going to Glock pistols for a reason. They work. Right now I am in the middle of switching back from a Glock 22-C to do some research with a Glock 17 and/or Glock 17L. My Glock 22-C is so old that it doesn't have rails on it and it doesn't have the finger indents like the new ones do. It's just a good, basic pistol that has served me for many years. Do what you want but for me, Glocks have never once let me down.
     
  15. notdku

    notdku Administrator Staff Member

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    Next gun I want is a PPK.

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