Hello all! 1st off, I’m new to this forum. 2ndly I’m new at owning guns and would like some help. I will break this down into 2 separate threads. One for Survival Rifle and a separate thread called Survival handgun. Since this thread is for Survival Rifle- the title says it all. I don’t or have never owned a gun. I do have my lifetime permit here in the state of Indiana. That said, I’ve been doing some research on “TAKE DOWN” rifles. I will list them here shortly and would like some comments regarding the take down rifles and hopefully I can come to a conclusion and set my mind on buying one at the gun show next month. Before I list them, here is my 1st question: What should I consider as a survival rifle (Bolt Action or SA?) and why? - Although I like the Bolt Action better because they require less moving part, which if it were to break, it wouldn’t cost me an arm or a leg. Also because I’ve read that they are easy to clean. What do you guys think? BA or SA? *many of you might be thinking what I’m going to use it for. Like I said, a survival situation. Survival how? Well, hunting game and maybe also protection- WHICH the bolt action wouldn’t help me much compare to a Semi auto* Here is a list of what I’ve compile (all of them are in .22). Reason? .22 ammo is VERY common and VERY cheap. In a SHTF situation, trading for this kind of ammo will be easy. On top of that, I can stock on this kind of ammo IN BULKS for a SHTF trading situation. I can trade .22 for food or misc items or maybe other type of ammo. I’m thinking of buying tons of .22. Henry AR7- I’ve heard mix reviews on this rifle. I love the idea, I hate the reviews. I’m 90% sure I’m NOT going to buy this. A majority of people complain about the plastic bore and its jamming or fail to feed problems. Price runs $150 (used)- $250. Marlin Papoose 70pss: I’ve heard great reviews on this rifle. Easy to assemble, and no to/little problems with it. I also like how the bolt stays open when you fire the last round. Price runs $150 (used)- $250 Browning takedown .22- I’ve heard a lot of great reviews about this gun. Love the concept and its potential. Price can range from $250-$500 Volquartsen FUSION TAKEDOWN- This comes in two options 1. 17 HMR/.22 WMR 2. .17 Mach 2/.22LR mode Price is a WOMPING $1,400-$1,800. Marlin XT bolt action- The .22LR prices around $170-$240. You can adjust the trigger. Although this is “kind of” a take down rifle. You need a screw driver….and that’s about it. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPavLtceqs8]Marlin XT Instructional video‏ - YouTube[/ame] around minute 1:55 he removes the screws with a screw driver. My question is, do any of you know if I can replace the screws with a thumb screw, that way I wouldn’t need to use a screw driver? These are some misc rifles I would like to own (not all just one, but not sure which one yet) Sprinfield M6- After looking at some videos I know its kind of lame since it only fires (1) .22 and (1) .410. I know I’ll probably buy one of these just because the way they are build. Price runs about $4-$650 USED! Savage 22/410- Very similar to the Spring M6. Price runs cheaper than the Spring M6, about $2-$300 Rossi Combo: Although I love the idea, you can only shoot one bullet at a time. Good for hunting large game, but not for combat survival situation. (they also sell these in 2 pairs, below are what they call the trifecta, or 3 pairs) MODEL S202250YM | 20GA / 22LR / 50CAL MODEL S202244YBS | 20 GA/22LR /44 MAG MODEL S2022243YBS | 20 GA / 22 LR / 243 WIN MODEL S42022243YBS | .243 / .22LR / 20 GA / .410 GA - NEW MODEL S1224350M | 12 GA / 243 WIN / 50 CAL MODEL S122250M | 12GA / 22LR / 50CAL So there you go. Any help for a newbie is really appreciated. Feel free to add any takedown rifles I might have missed. Should I worry about it being a bolt action or semi auto…..how easy/hard are they to clean…….are less moving parts better…..? I would mainly use it for hunting, or protection. These are some random questions I have: Can you kill a deer or moose or whatever with a .22lr? and how long can you store frozen meat for? Thx!