New toy!

Discussion in 'Blackpowder & Musket' started by Joshua M. Smith, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. Joshua M. Smith

    Joshua M. Smith New Member

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    Hello,

    I was out looking to do some trading today.

    I had in mind a .410 double shotty, but anything that caught my eye would work.

    Wound up with this:

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    I've never owned a muzzleloader before. This one was used, but aside from a bit of rust, looked good.

    I would have liked to have had a wooden stock and a lefty action, but for the deal I couldn't pass it up. Besides the rifle, I got 200 percussion caps, an unopened container of Shockey's Gold Sticks (the man said they wouldn't work in a sidelock, but they seem to function just fine), and 60 saboted 99% pure lead bullets.

    I took it out and shoved one of the powder sticks down the tube after verifying there wasn't a charge in it already. Then I put a wad in it.

    Checking for function before live ammo is used is a priority for me.

    The cap went "pop" and the main charge didn't light. At this point I was thinking "crap, the guy was right." I tried a few more primers to to avail.

    Decided to take a pick to the nipple again, and I paid closer attention. It didn't seem to go all the way through. Hmmm...

    So the nipple came off. It was clogged with rust. I mean, it looked like somebody had poured iodine in there.

    I had to use a drill and actual bit to get it out.

    So I went back out, put the nipple back on, primed it, and the charge went "POOF!"

    Awesomeness.

    So this time I tried an actual bullet.

    "BOOM!" Nice kick, about like a light 20 gauge, if that.

    It's a 1:48" twist, so I'll probably just end up making some cotton patches and using .452" bullets I cast for my 1911 in this thing. They should work just fine on deer if I go this season.

    I'd like to shoot balls, and though I know it won't be as accurate as a slower twist, I figure I'll experiment.

    Should be fun!

    Josh
     
  2. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    Cool. Josh, what caliber is it?
     

  3. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    Suh-weet! Have fun!
     
  4. Joshua M. Smith

    Joshua M. Smith New Member

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    Hello,

    It's a .50.

    I figure I can use it for anything in Indiana.

    I'm tempted to leave it loaded and uncapped. Got a couple other guns for that, though.

    Josh
     
  5. quigleysharps4570

    quigleysharps4570 New Member

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    I'm betting you'll end up disappointed with that combo. Believe you'll be better off going somewhere like Wal-Mart and buying some pillow ticking and using a .490 roundball. ;)
     
  6. Joshua M. Smith

    Joshua M. Smith New Member

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    Hi Gents,

    I got some round balls today.

    Played around with my new balls, and found they like light to medium weight cotton T-shirt material with a bit of spit on the patches. Odd I guess, but it works.

    I found after five shots with a non-lubed patch, accuracy went to hell. If I spit on each patch, it stayed clean enough for 10 consecutive shots.

    Here is what I did:

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    Sitting, 50yds.

    I think this is good for a muzzleloader with open sights from a sitting position. I do not honestly know. Thoughts?

    What kind of speed do you suppose I'm producing with 50gns of Shockey Gold under a 177gn LRB? The Shockey's in stick form, but I crush it up a bit with the ramrod, so it has complete combustion.

    My final comment is that I'm just really glad this is performing with round balls. I tend to be a bit of a traditionalist (thus the sidelock, and only using the Shockey sticks because that's what was included; I will be switching to Pyrodex or 777 when they're gone - can't find real BP around here). I was hoping I could use these and not have to go to Minie Ball. This just seems, well, more fun. Also, a very kind gent is sending me a mold for this ball, so I'll not often be out of ammunition!

    Any thoughts or help?

    Thanks,

    Josh
     
  7. quigleysharps4570

    quigleysharps4570 New Member

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    Looks good...**** can the replica powder.
     
  8. Joshua M. Smith

    Joshua M. Smith New Member

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    Thanks.

    The closest I can find to real black around here is Pyrodex.

    I'm going to have to go with that or 777. Not much choice. I hate hazmat fees.

    Thanks,

    Josh
     
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  10. quigleysharps4570

    quigleysharps4570 New Member

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    Yep...Powder Inc. is where all mine comes from anymore. Several pounds eases the bite of that Haz-Mat...maybe you and a couple friends can pitch in Joshua.
     
  11. Joshua M. Smith

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    Hello,

    If I regulate the sights at 40 yards with 50gns BP or BP equivalent, where should this put me with a patched round ball at 25, 75, and 100yds?

    Is 50gns humane for deer? If not, how would sighting in a with 50gns affect trajectory if I used 70gns (assuming accuracy?)

    This does shoot well with 100gns as well, but not something I want to do a lot. I tried it and I was wearing out fairly quickly. I would hazard a guess that I can only shoot that load with no pad because my shoulder is used to years of slug gun shooting. (My weak side shoulder doesn't even like the 50gn load.)

    I also have this lil' bet that I'll bark squirrel with the thing; I'm a big squirrel hunter and the man said he'll send me a coonskin cap if I manage to do this, so that's where I'll need the most accuracy :D

    Anyway, if I regulate the sights at 40 yards with 50gns BP or BP equivalent, where should this put me with a patched round ball at 25, 75, and 100yds? How would that change with 70 and 100 grain charges?

    Thanks!

    Josh
     
  12. quigleysharps4570

    quigleysharps4570 New Member

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    Buffalo Arms sells a recoil pad that would be good for you. A gentleman I know really likes it when shooting his 45-90 and 50-90...he has a bad shoulder and it doesn't bother him with the pad slipped on.
    PQ Shooter's Friend Gun Recoil Pad

    Far as the trajectory info...best advice would be get out and shoot. ;)
    Have shot head shot many squirrels and rabbits with my .50 and .54 with reduced loads of 35 grs. of Goex. For deer I feed them a different combo...the .50 likes 70 grs. of 2f Swiss with patched ball...the .54 like 90 grs. of Goex Cartridge Grade and the little .40 like 70 grs. of 3f Goex.
     
  13. beaglesam

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    I looked for black powder in Ohio and only found one place in Lodi, Ohio. (3 + hours west from you) It's a great store and may be worth your time to visit.

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