New To The AR15 and on the market for one

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by DeadOn300, Jan 21, 2012.

  1. DeadOn300

    DeadOn300 New Member

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    Ive been a "Nay Sayer" on the AR15 for the last couple years, being an AK guy I never thought Id have much use for one, being my AK takes down Hogs just fine, which is my main purpose for my collection.

    The Downside is that my AK has a little bit too much recoil to hit 2 or 3 hogs before the pack is gone, with about a split second of re-sighting the AK after each shot, maybe more if the hog is on the move, I really need something with less recoil but around the same ballistics and range as my AK.

    The guy at the local gun shop has been up-selling the AR15's Low Recoil, Range and Damage, but I like to shop around and research rather than jump on the first thing offered on a so-called "good deal"

    What He is offering is a Bushmaster Carbon-15, New with a Bushnell Red dot scope, front railing system, and 2 magazines for $650

    That Price is fine and affordable being I have about $900 To play with, but Can I get better for what Im spending?? I really dont want to build an AR, Id rather buy one New and Complete.
    Id also be interested in an AR10 if anyone knows where to find one in my price range.

    What would You buy with the $900 and Why??

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. pagj17

    pagj17 New Member

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    While there are many options, but I would not reccomend the carbon 15 as many folks are reporting they bust up pretty quick.
     

  3. dog2000tj

    dog2000tj New Member

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    For hunting hogs? I would suggest an AR15 in 458SOCOM or an AR10. If you shop around you may find a deal on either right around the $1k mark.
     
  4. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    a well placed shot from a .223/5.56 will get the job done , now the .458 pretty much drops them in their tracks .
    If you have intentions of pllinking with this gun the .458 is not going to be cost effective to do this with . Lots of choices out there , Make sure to ask questions preferable away from where your going to buy it at , They want a sale and most will get it at any cost. There are no stupid questions except the ones you didnt ask that cost you money
    I will agree with the above statement , I would stay away from the carbon 15 , there are guns out there at the some cost that are much better quality , Spikes, PSA, Stag and a few others
     
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  5. Snakedriver

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    Really? :confused: The ol' boys here in Florida use their pocket knives to dispatch the hogs once their dogs corner them. :eek: .458 is a little overkill IMO, a 5.56 cal. or maybe a 6.8 will be more than enough. Pigs 'aint bulletproof. :cool:

    P.S.: Pass on the Carbon 15. There are much better choices in your price range.
     
  6. mjkeat

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    I would suggest you never set foot back in that place.

    Plenty of people use the 5.56 to dispatch hogs. If you're worried get some good ballistic ammo.

    Take a look at .300 AAC Blackout. .308 bullet in a 5.56 case.
     
  7. AgentTikki

    AgentTikki New Member

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    Just went hogging, and I humped about 5 miles in brush and hilly terrain. I really apreciated a good comfortable sling and a my lightweight ar. I recommend a lightweight barrel and a good muzzle break. You should look at a 1/7 twist for longer bullets, and a 16, 18, 20 inch barrel depending on what distances you anticipate.
     
  8. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    A heavier gr. HP Bullet with a 1/7 twist in .223 / 5.56 will do plenty of damage and get the job done
     
  9. AgentTikki

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    I'm not sure a HP will penetrate enough....how big are the hogs you shooting? I just got some 70gr Barnes TSX but I don't aniticipate shooting anything over 200#s. I wouldn't take a shot on a 400# pig, unless I had a perfect shot.

    I would not use FMJ or M855 steel penetrators. What you are looking for a controlled expansion with good penetration. HD SD hollow points will probably expand too much and not penetrate enough.

    Barnes are expensive, but I've seen good things about Nosler Partitions, might want to look into to that.
     
  10. DeadOn300

    DeadOn300 New Member

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    Thanks Everyone, Im gonna leave the car-15 off my radar all together. Im going to a few shops today to see what i can find.

    We are taking any size hog we can get, simply just to get them off the land and help a local homeless shelter with free meat. The largest yet was close to 350#s and one shot from my AK with Wolf 122g HP at just over 80yrds It dropped him but it took a second shot to make the kill.

    as I said before Im not experienced with an ar15 but if it has the range and accuracy of my ak then Ill be fine with some decent optics. I can put holes in a paper plate from almost 300yrds using a 4x32mm TruGlo Scope that I took off my crossbow.

    I guess what im trying to say is that I can operate any weapon handed to me effectively, im just wanting to match or beat my ak's performance with less recoil.

    I just want to make sure im fairly educated before just buying one.
     
  11. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    Put it in the boiler room and it will do fine, just do not try to punch it thru the plate , it may have ill effects on the hp
     
  12. AgentTikki

    AgentTikki New Member

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    Have you considered a brake/compensator on your ak?
     
  13. DeadOn300

    DeadOn300 New Member

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    Ive got an arrangement of ak brakes, the slant works best on lowering muzzle rise, and it makes it more controllable.

    Im really just wanting to get an AR.
     
  14. Quentin

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    I agree with the advice AgentTikki and mjkeat gave. If you want less recoil than the AK/7.62x39 then I'd definitely go with 5.56 in some of the heavier loads and a 1/7 twist barrel. Glad to hear you've distanced yourself from the C15 and hopefully the shop that was trying to push it. $900 can get you a great AR and BCM comes to mind. PSA is a great choice and will get you down to the $700 range.

    As far as the difference between the AK and AR I don't notice that much difference in recoil but I do feel like I'm in slow motion with the AK while the AR is much quicker with a followup shot. The AK action just seems slow and of course slightly more recoil.