new to glock/ firearms in general

Discussion in 'Glock Forum' started by tito, Sep 6, 2012.

  1. tito

    tito New Member

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    Help me out plz. What's the difference between a glock 19, glock 19 Gen 3 , and glock 19 Gen 4
     
  2. gearhead396

    gearhead396 New Member

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    There are first second third and forth gen glocks gens one through 3 are bassicly the same design with slight changes in the grip design pattern and added springs or pins but now the gen 4 is out and parts can not be interchanged its got a dual recoil spring and bigger mag release I don't like the gen 4 also the gen 1 and 2 don't have thumb rests accessory rail and finer groves the gens 3 and four do so it really comes down to preference but I wouldn't by anything but a gen 3 not because of the finer groves and thumb rests i personly like a flat grip but i gotta have an accessory rail and welcome to the forum gens 1 and 2 are good for parts on the 3 if you need em :)
     
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  3. tito

    tito New Member

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    Wow man thanks really appreciate ur info:)
     
  4. gearhead396

    gearhead396 New Member

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    No problem hope it helped
     
  5. yogiboobooranger

    yogiboobooranger New Member

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    The 1st Gen frames had a smooth, "pebbled" finish on the frame that wrapped all the way around the grip (360 degrees) without any borders. These were roughly 1982-1989 production.

    The 2nd Gen frames had a similar pebbled finish on the sides of the grip, but there were distinct borders. It was kind of like having a pebbled panel on each side. Beyond the borders of the panels, the frame was smooth, except for the frontstrap and the backstrap, which had a raised checkered pattern. These frames were roughly 1989-1997 production.

    The 3rd Gen frames were the "FGR" or Finger Groove and Rail frames. Besides the finger grooves and rails, thumb indents were added at the top of each side panel. These frames were released in 1997 and continue to present.
    There have been a few oddballs that don't clearly fall into any of the above descriptions. This has caused a lot of angst among Glock fans, who debate whether they actually represent additional "Generations" or not. To wit:

    A. The "SF" or Short Frame guns have a reduced circumference and ambi mag catches. Aside from this, all characteristics match the 3rd Gen frame definition, above. The 20, 21, 29 and 30 are offered in Short Frames;

    B. The "RTF 2" or Rough Textured Frame has a completely different pattern on the side panels, frontstrap and backstrap. Side panels are covered with so-called "polymids" that offer a rougher surface. This surface was apparently the second variant, thus the "RTF 2" designation. The backstrap is also covered with the same texture, as is the area in between finger grooves on the front of the frame. Unlike the SF frame, dimensions match Gen 3 frames. The 17, 19, 22 and 23 are offered in RTF 2 frames.
    Gen 4 guns are an amalgamation of features that we have seen in one form or another on previous Glocks. To wit:

    A. An FGR-type frame, but built to reduced SF dimensions;

    B. A new, more subdued rough texture that looks more like the "RTF 3" texture previously pictured here. The new texture is different than RTF 3, in that the bumps are more like raised cubes, instead of pointy pyramids, but the spacing/density of them looks more similar to RTF 3 than RTF 2. Some have taken to calling the new bumps "cubids."

    C. A double-captive recoil spring system, like that found on G26 and G27 subcompacts (but much more robust)

    The new features on the Gen 4 guns include:

    A. A multiple backstrap system in which pieces are added on top of the baseline SF frame. This makes it different than M&P or other designs where the backstrap inserts are an integral part of the frame and you really can't use the gun without an insert installed;

    B. A reversible (but not ambi, as on SF) magazine catch, that is also enlarged compared to 3rd Gen dimensions.
    Hope this helps and by the way, my posting is not mine alone..others contributed to the actual wording. I just copied and pasted what I thought was a concise description of the various Glock generations.
     
  6. gearhead396

    gearhead396 New Member

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    I have to ask did you already know this which I wouldn't doubt or did you go to wiki or something just asking
     
  7. yogiboobooranger

    yogiboobooranger New Member

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    Knew it!! Was just easier to copy and paste info rather than type it all..LOL
     
  8. tito

    tito New Member

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    Tats a lot of info to take in lol which glock do you prefer and y?
     
  9. gearhead396

    gearhead396 New Member

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    I personaly don't like Glocks period had a g 30 for years and was ok with it but i have recently bought several other guns and have to say I got rid of the g 30 I don't like the grip angle and I'm just in accurate with them I now switch between my 1911 and my ruger sr9c but to each his own
     
  10. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Gen 2 glock 20 10mm
    Biggest glock on the block.
    15 rounds of .40 cal on steroids.
     

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  11. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Did you see the post the other day showing the grip angles on different guns? There is probably a 2 degree difference between a glock and 1911 grip angle. I can understand you don't like the grip but I highly doubt anyone on here can really tell if something is off by 2 degrees over 4 inches and be that adversely affected by it. Not picking on you. Just don't believe that argument anymore.
     
  12. gearhead396

    gearhead396 New Member

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    I see where your coming from mm idk I just feel like when I pull a glock from holster and fire no matter what glock I'm inaccurate and I chalk that up to grip angle but hey it could be somethin else
     
  13. mountainman13

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    If the guns not for you,its not for you. I'm glad you don't just hate glocks cause they aren't a 1911 ;)
     
  14. gearhead396

    gearhead396 New Member

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    Lol ya I don't hate on Glocks just cause there Glocks I respect the hell outta them but like you said there just not for me
     
  15. GaMatt72

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    I Have a gen3 G27 (40 cal) and a gen4 G22 (40cal) I will have to say I like some things about each one. But hard to compare a full size with the sub.
     
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    That is the longest sentence I've ever read.
     
  17. Gh0zt36

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    I'll just say the main features.
    I don't know much about gen 1s.
    Gen 2 have no finger grooves and I believe no accessory rails .
    Gen 3 has finger grooves on the grip and some models have accessory rails .
    Gen 4 have a 2 piece guide rod/spring , thinner grip profile by a MM or two , a rougher textured grip and interchangeable back straps. ( From what I understand Gen 4 was glocks answer to the Springfield XDm )

    Those are the main differences I know of.

    All though there are variations between certain models I.E Full size , compact and sub-compact , compensated , RTF , competition models

    hope this helps
     
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  18. yogiboobooranger

    yogiboobooranger New Member

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    Cannot Pick just one!!

    I will answer you this way..I cannot just pick one Glock as my favorite and give you a reason! I have several and all have their place and purpose. But, as a platform, I like them because of reliability, ease of maintenance and their safe action. Please know that I am a "GlockHead", but I also am a 1911 fanatic and I like revolvers too. Heck, I like all guns!!:rolleyes:
     
  19. Fathead00

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    My edc is a Gen 3 G35 .40 cal and I love it. I just recently bought a Ruger SR1911 and I love that, but I feel much better with the GLOCK as of right now. I really need some practice with the Ruger because I can't hit ****. There are alot more GLOCKs I want to purchase though!!!:)
     
  20. gearhead396

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    I really want a ruger 1911 did you have any issues at all with it how has it preformed ?