New job; can't carry :-(

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by cnorman18, Nov 28, 2012.

  1. cnorman18

    cnorman18 New Member

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    Starting a new job in January; substitute teaching, hoping to get on as a regular teacher in the spring or fall. That's good -- I was a teacher for 20+ years, 10 years ago -- but I won't be able to carry. Federal felony, all that. Carrying anyway is out of the question -- they sweep the buildings & parkng lots regularly with sniffer dogs, and they'll alert on ammo as well as drugs.
    Suggestions?
     
  2. racer_x

    racer_x New Member

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    what about a knife? just a thought or like a flap jack, monkey fist or a tactical pen :rolleyes:

    not trying to make a joke or anything but i think your gana have to rely on the guards you have at the school, not that thats much good either. we have city cops that stay at the schools armed an all but they cant be everywhere all the time.

    edit: back in my day we had no problem closing a fist and fightin that time is long gone im afraid
     
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  3. Doc3402

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    Number one, you don't mention what grades you'll be teaching, but if it's middle school you don't want the temptation that readily available anyway. Those kids could tick off the pope. Second, check your local statutes about non-firearm defense weapons on school property.

    Whatever you decide, check your statutes. I can't emphasize that enough. Make darn sure you will be legal in your locale before you do anything.
     
  4. cnorman18

    cnorman18 New Member

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    Yeah, I understand all that. To clarify; I'm not worried about being attacked at school -- it's that the district is about 30 miles away, and I have to drive through some tough neighborhoods. Oh, wow, I just remembered the Henry survival rifle I keep in the spare tire recess with 100 rounds of ammo. Better get that outta there.

    No knives for me, other than a small jackknife that's definitely a tool and not a weapon (I collect knives, and have many; but knife fighting is for experts, and I'm not one.) The monkey fist is a good idea, with a nice fat ball bearing in the center. I have a blackjack, but that's getting into felony territory too -- though the dogs couldn't smell it. Hmm.

    I have a tactical pen, and after I'm on the job and known a bit better I could begin taking one of my Blackthorn sticks, which I've always thought is better than anything but pepper spray. I taught for 20 years before I had a permit; I'll be OK, but I hate to give up my LCP.

    I'll be teaching 5th through 8th at first, and may later move up to high school, but I doubt it. I'm certified through 8th, so that's where my target job is. Not to worry about MY temper -- I seem to have been born without one, which is handy when you're a middle school teacher. Only one person on Earth could ever really piss me off, and she made a religion of it. We're not married any more.
     
  5. MoreAltitude

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    Do you think it would be possible to pursue permission from the school board superintendant or something to allow you to keep it in your vehicle? Anything short of that, I think you are just plain SOL.
     
  6. Sam78

    Sam78 New Member

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    How about parking off school property
     
  7. Colby

    Colby New Member

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    If you rethought your position on knives, learned a little, and realized that anyone wielding a knife in a sure handed way is a threat to the opposing person - and is recognized as a real threat - if the bad guy sees more than a weak-wristed flashing of a knife by his opponent -- the knife could be your friend.
    Just requires a change of thinking and a little bit of training.
     
  8. HOSSFLY

    HOSSFLY New Member

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    Don't carry------
     
  9. JD1969

    JD1969 New Member

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    This and maybe finding a way to park school property is really your only option. I would not even bring the idea up to the school board or super. They will mark you as trouble at the very least and it may cost you the job.
     
  10. cnorman18

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    Precisely. Parking off school property would mark me with a big ? too.

    Re knives -- I own a Spyderco Civilian, which was designed as a self-defense knife for nonexperts. That's an option too, but I think I'll hold out for the walking stick. Thanks for all the advice --
     
  11. JD1969

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    Keep a baseball bat, glove and ball in the car.
     
  12. cnorman18

    cnorman18 New Member

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    That is actually a brilliant idea, and I'm gonna use it!
     
  13. manta

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    I would agree don't carry or if you can't go to work without carrying look for another job. I personally wouldn't let whether or not i could carry a firearm decide my career. I know there have being some shootings in schools but you are much more likely to be killed in a car accident on the way to school.
     
  14. phildenton

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    I think jd has the best. Aside from maybe checking on pepper spray, most anything else would be a bad idea (legally speaking)
     
  15. hmh

    hmh New Member

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    Carry a cane or even an umbrella against a firearm not so good but against almost anything else you would have a chance with minimal practice.
     
  16. HOSSFLY

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    Ya'll look out --This guy makes sense ;)
     
  17. Doc3402

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    Have you thought about a cane? I've got a derby cane that I often carry to places that are restricted. The handle can best be described as multipurpose. It isn't weight bearing, but I just tell people I have a trick knee and use it for balance.
     
  18. cnorman18

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    I actually collect walking sticks and have about 30. As I said, I plan to begin carrying one after I'm established and have a rep as a good teacher (which I am).

    Not at all worried about attacks from the kids: intruders are another matter. You'd be surprised how often pervs sneak into the little girls' restroom in elementary and intermediate schools -- at least 6 times in schools where I've taught. None of those guys were armed, but if you're that crazy...
     
  19. marc29th

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    I've never heard of dogs that could sniff out ammo before. Explosives yes but 6 rounds of .380 in your LCR no way dogs are going sniff that out. Get a good lock box and lock it up.
     
  20. winds-of-change

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    I believe a dog certainly can sniff that out.