new guy, new gun

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by unknownhero82, Dec 2, 2009.

  1. good

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  2. bad

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  3. undecided

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  4. indifferent

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  1. unknownhero82

    unknownhero82 New Member

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    hey how's it going i'm new to this site and new to the ar-15 world so i thought i'd say hi and introduce myself....my name is Johnlewis but everyone calls me Jd for short. i own a few handguns...mostly 1911s and a few rifles...i recently (as in just today) completed my first ever complete ar-15 build starting from a stripped dpms lower...minus a few extras that i still need to add...i.e. sling and bi-pod, everything else is completed...and i wanted to see what everyone thought about and if anyone had any opinions on good slings and bi-pods.


    the details on the ar-15 are:
    DPMS Lower, DPMS Internal parts, Magpul PRS stock, Magpul Suregrip Grip, 24" stainless steel bullbarrel with a 1/8 twist free floating, 12.5" quadrail foregaurd, 3-9x40 red/green mil-dot ao leepers scope...i'm gonna attempt to post pics...don't laugh at the blanket it's on...it's the brightest thing i could find to put the rifle on lol
     

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  2. bkt

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    Nice job! It's an outstanding varmint rifle. Whether it's good or bad depends on what YOU want the rifle for. Personally, I prefer an AR outfitted for closer-range (shorter, lighter barrel, maybe a red dot sight instead of a scope) and something like a Remington 700 in .308 for long-range stuff.

    Take it out and write up a range report!
     

  3. unknownhero82

    unknownhero82 New Member

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    well i'm planning to build a few different uppers that are all set up differently. now this is probably gonna sound stupid but i have no idea what a range report is....do i just say how the rifle shot?
     
  4. Dillinger

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    Welcome to the FTF Community.

    First off, I have to say you did a good job on the build if this is your first one.

    Personally, I had to vote indifferent because you have some competing
    philosophies going with that model.

    You got the long, bull barrel and the PSG-1 type stock and pistol grip, but then you have the forward vertical tilt grip. :confused:

    I like it as a long range varminter, where I would dump the grip and add a bipod or a nice backpack to shoot off of. Then, of course, you need a quality piece of glass to put on top there. :D

    All in all, a good piece of work for your first effort. The AR platform is capable of so many good things, it's just fun to play and experiment. Plus building it yourself is so rewarding and great for maintenence.

    JD
     
  5. unknownhero82

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    well the only reason i added the foregrip is because the barrel weighs a good 10lbs and i havn't found a good bi-pod to put on it yet, plus it makes it alil easier to carry around since i don't have a sling yet. and hopefully i'll be able to upgrade the glass soon and end up puttin that back on the rifle i had it on orginally
     
  6. 2hot2handle

    2hot2handle New Member

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    There is no such thing as a bad AR:D. I like it thought I had the same thoughts that JD did. Glad you have that all sorted out though. One thing though, is that a forty round mag? Cause it looks bigger than a thirty to me. Maybe my eyes are just messed up.
     
  7. unknownhero82

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    haha nope it's a 30rd...its just sitting on another 30man that's actually in the rifle so it looks alil longer....once i find a good bi-pod the foregrip will come off and once i can find a niice sling...i was think of gettin one i saw from magpul
     
  8. slowryde45

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    Good Job! and welcome aboard.

    For a first time venture, you did very good. I have almost the same set-up, except they were out of the 24" barrel at the time, so I went with the 20".

    Like JD pointed out, there are a few :confused: type things though. Now, take it as just my own personal opinions, you built your piece the way you saw fit.

    1) I probably would have elected to go with a different forearm on there, instead of the 4-rail. But, that all depends on what you want to be able to do with it, and what it's main purpose will be. If you are building it for long range shooting (hence the Magpul PRS, 24" 1:8 twist barrel, palm-swell grip, scope), then is the 4-rail necessary? I guess if you are planning to add some type of lighting/infrared/etc. you would want it. But you could probably shave some weight off by going to something like the YHM smooth rifle forearm:
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    or maybe the JP Enterprises V-Tac
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    You can add rails to either of these, for mounting whatever you want to mount, and they weigh less than most 4-rail forearms.
    2) Again, like JD said, loose the vertical fore grip, unless you think it looks like you want it to. There really is no need for one on a gun like this. Instead, invest in a good bi-pod, a Harris, Versa-Pod, etc.
    3) Get some better glass for it. You don't need Swarovski or Schmidt&Bender, or that price tag. Go to Natchez or SWFA or Optics Planet, and check out the selections. You can get a very good Leupold/Nikon/Burris?etc. for under $300. Leepers is ok, mainly made for air soft and paintball type applications. I'm sure some will say different, but you can find better without breaking the bank.
    4) Break the barrel in, per DPMS's instructions, cleaning after each of the first few shots, then after the next 5, or whatever it was. Again, some will say different, but on two similar barrels, I went with their instructions on one, and just started shooting the other w/o the cleaning. There is a noticeable difference - not much, but easily seen on the targets.
    5) Lastly, after breaking in the barrel, shoot it, pay attention to your breathing, sighting, trigger work, and shoot for groups. After a couple hundred rounds, you should be able to tell if you want a trigger upgrade or not. Here, your options are many. Ranging from less than $100 for a good trigger job, to $100 and up for 2-stage NM or single stage triggers (Rock River Arms, Armalite, DPMS, Bushmaster all have NM 2-stage triggers) or you can buy a Timney, Chip McCormick, Geiselle, ATC Gold, Wilson TTU, etc.

    all in all, you did very good and should be proud of your work. Looks great. Let us know how it does.

    Slo
     
  9. unknownhero82

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    hopefully i can find atleast a 100yrd range around here...most the outdoor places here are members only...and like i said hopefully soon i'll have a bi-pod on it and the foregrip off and a niice sling too
     
  10. slowryde45

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    Where is here? Around these parts, we have a couple outdoor ranges that offer up to 600 yards, and if not there, we just head up into the hills, lots of old gravel pits around with up to 200 yds.
     
  11. unknownhero82

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    oh my bad...i live in chesapeake virginia near virginia beach...i know of a handful of indoor ranges that are like 25yrds, but that doesn't really help me with this rifle lol
     
  12. JMB1

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    As for the bi-pod check out harris bi-pods they are some of the best made out there. Midway runs sales on them every once in a while..
     
  13. unknownhero82

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    sweet thanks for the advice i'll look into it and see what i can find
     
  14. unknownhero82

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    update

    update on the new ar...added a bi-pod...thinking of keeping the handle tho...gonna see how it feels holding on to it while i shoot this weekend, and probably for carrying....atleast til i get a sling...i'm looking at one from magpul but we'll see what happens...here's some updated pics
     

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  15. bigjim

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    Sorry I am late to the party, Very nice build and excelent choice in parts. Only one thing I could think of is lose the 30 round magizines and find some strraight 20 rounders, the 30's will just get in the way unless you use a sitting tripod.

    Below is the reason I like your build.


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  16. unknownhero82

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    thanks...like yours as well...i've found 1 problem with mine which i'm about to fix...the way the scope sits you can't really grab the chargining handle...so i need to get something to raise the scope some or move it forward abit...but other then that i'm pretty happy with it...now i'm just lookin for someplace to shoot that's more then 25yards....anyone in the virginia beach/chesapeake area with land to shoot on? lol
     
  17. slowryde45

    slowryde45 New Member

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    No, just add one of these to your charging handle

    Badger Tactical Latch
     
  18. unknownhero82

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    the way my scope sits it doesn't look like that'll help any...i think my scope needs to get lifted alil higher or moved forward some...or both...
     
  19. FCross7

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    I have the same problem on my AR-10. It actually sits low enough that I had to cut out part of the lens cover to get the cover to clear the rail. I was thinking of getting some new rings for it, but I'm hopefully gonna be getting a new scope soon, so I'm just gonna wait till then.

    -Fred
     
  20. unknownhero82

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    well i saw this scope mount...it's kindda hard to discribe...atleast for me...hopefully i can pick it up tomorrow...if i can i'll take a before and after pic and post it on here...it's like a weaver rail that sits alil high and forward but just mounts on the upper and not the forearm rail....if that makes any sense