New England firearms Pardner Model 12g. Issues.

Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by xcoreyyyx, Jun 8, 2012.

  1. xcoreyyyx

    xcoreyyyx New Member

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    I took my pardner model 12g. single shot to the range and put a shell in it and fired it. I then proceeded to eject the spent shell and it didn't eject. It didn't kick out of the barrel at all. It was like it was stuck in it. I had to pop it out by shoving my cleaning rod down the chamber. I tried it again and the same thing happened. At this point I was highly upset. I came home and tried to research the issue and found out that some people had problems with their guns not ejecting the shell do to what they thought low end shells expand in the chamber not evenly which gets them stuck. Personally, I took the gun apart and the ejector spring had a slight(and I mean slight) bend in it. I feel that maybe if I purchased a new spring for the ejector it may fix the issue. Has anyone had similar problems or any smiths fixed the problems? Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Marlinman

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    I heat straightened one w a ⅛ ounce sinker and pencil torch but I wouldn't advise doing that wo proper training in smithin. I did it for a guy out of sentimental reasons.
     
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  3. xcoreyyyx

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    Yeah, I was definitely not going to try it on my own but thank you for instructing that specifically. I was just wondering if I should either get a spring or take it to a smith around here and have them see what they could do with it. Roughly how much would that cost? I know all smiths are different but what would you charge for it?
     
  4. Marlinman

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    I'd charge $20 labor plus whatever the ejector rail spring cost. Be alot cheaper and easier to order it from midway or some such place and do it yourself though.
     
  5. xcoreyyyx

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    I meant how much did you charge the guy you did it for to do all that stuff you said you did. The spring is easy to replace. I have tried to mess with it plenty of times trying to see if anything was being caught or pinched or whatever stopping it from sliding the ejector back but no luck :(
     
  6. 303tom

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    When you close & open it with no shell in it does it go ping, what I am trying to say does the ejector snap out ? If so will it bring a loaded shell clear out of the chamber ? If so try cleaning the chamber with a powered wire brush. I bet it will help...............If not, replace the spring.
     
  7. xcoreyyyx

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    The ejector does snap out when there is nothing in it and I open it. It also ejects properly with a shell in the chamber. It is just after the shell is spent then it will no long eject or even back out a little bit to where I can hand pull the spent shell out.
     
  8. Marlinman

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    I charged him $30 to do it. Clean the piss out of it w a wire cone wheel and some pb blaster or hoppes #9 and you should be good
     
  9. xcoreyyyx

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    Ok thanks for the info. I was going to do this but I didn't know if it would make a difference or not.
     
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  11. hiwall

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    If it does not pull the shell from the chamber then it is the extractor not the ejector. If the ejector is bad the shell would pull back and just not fly out. Your problem sounds like the extractor. First do like 303tom says to clean the chamber. The extractor should have a strong spring and a fairly sharp edge. Most extractors are strong enough to rip a chunk out of the case if the case sticks.
     
  12. xcoreyyyx

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    ^^
    http://www.hr1871.com/documents/manuals/New/pardner-single-shot.pdf

    #2 is the piece that is sticking and not ejecting the shell and the ejector spring (#3) is the spring that is very slightly bent.
     
  13. hiwall

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    Sorry I was thinking it was a pump action(I gotta lay off the booze:)). With the spring removed does the ejector slide totally free with no drag? The shaft sometimes get burrs or a slight bend.
     
  14. xcoreyyyx

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    Lol, not a problem but the ejector slides out just fine. Like I said in an earlier post on this thread, it will eject a loaded shell and snapcaps just fine but after I fire the gun and go to eject it, the ejector doesn't slide out. I can sit around and just eject snapcaps and loaded shells all day long without a problem. Other people said they had problems with the low end shells expanding unevenly and getting stuck.
     
  15. hiwall

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    Do your fired shells show bulges or marks? I don't really think its the spring as the fired shells should slide easily out of the chamber if everything is as it should be. When the ejector is pushed in all the way there should be no gaps. Metal should surround the cartridge completely.
     
  16. xcoreyyyx

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    Metal surrounds the cartridge completely but people on the interwebz said that lower end shells expand unevenly which makes it get stuck. When I got it, it looked like it had practically never been fired before. I may check the ejector again. For some reason I do remember having slight difficulties of it being stuck and not just sliding out when it was taken apart.
     
  17. 303tom

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    I still say you just need to clean the chamber real good...................
     
  18. xcoreyyyx

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    After I finish up dealing with what I have apart right now I am going to give the chamber a good cleaning. Probably later tonight.
     
  19. 303tom

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    Run some real fine emery cloth on your finger around inside the chamber after you get all the gunk out...................and don`t get carried away.
     
  20. xcoreyyyx

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    Ok, I will do that. I will be taking it to the range this week seeing as how I can't just shoot out behind my house where I live :(