New concealed carry questions

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by easterner123, Aug 22, 2013.

  1. easterner123

    easterner123 New Member

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    Hello everybody. I'm turning 21 in a few and live in a rough city in Arizona and I'm looking for
    Some advice. I have narrowed my carry options down to two pistols: the S&W Shield in 9mm or a makarov in 9x18. Both have similar magazine capacities and capabilities, can I hear some thoughts on what you would prefer? If these aren't up to par for concealed carry, what about the CZ75 compact. The handgun and ammo for the mak is cheaper but this will be my ccw so is it worth the money to drop the extra on the smith?

    Also, I'm sure I'm not the first person to ask this question so if anyone can link some good threads, resources or advice any and all assistance (legal, gear or tactical) would be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. marc29th

    marc29th New Member

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    All 3 guns are good for CC, I own all of them S&W Shield, Russian Makarov and a full size CZ 75b. Hold all of them and pick the one that fits your hand best and you won't go wrong.
     

  3. mahall

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    I settled on the Glock26!! Ideal for carry and adequate for HD!! I recommend it to all new carry people!! I've also heard good things about the Shield!! It's really a personal choice of what best fits your needs!! But give the 26 some consideration!! Good luck!! And carry safe!!
     
  4. Nebraska12

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    Nice choice. Carry safe, carry often.
     
  5. orangello

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    I do not carry concealed. I do own and love a full-sized CZ75b, so I would think their compact model would be reliable and comfortable as well. I have heard nothing bad about the Shield but have not tried one myself.

    If you are considering a Makarov or a CZ82, take a look at a Bersa Thunder .380; the round is very similar but probably has more options on projectiles, and the frame is a lighter weight alloy. The Bersa goes for about $300 new and is available with 7 or 9 round magazines for the standard model (plus model has double-stack 14 or 15 round mag). The satin nickel finish is nice-looking and resistant to corrosion. My sister owns mine now. :(
     
  6. Missouribound

    Missouribound Well-Known Member

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    Visit a range that rents to shoot and shoot a few different guns. Get used to the weight and feel of several guns before you make a choice. I do agree that the Sheild is a very good choice, and I am thinking of getting one myself, but it's your hand, your body that has to carry it. And when you find the gun you really like, expect to spend a few bucks on a quality holster...or maybe a few of them. Good luck and stay safe.
     
  7. JW357

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    So ultimately what it comes down to is what feels the best in your hand and which you shoot the best.

    If it were me, between those two, I'd get the Shield. Don't let the thing I posted above deter you. Smith will fix it if its a problem.

    Also, don't shy away from a revolver. A .357 Magnum snubbie will give much better stopping power than a 9mm, .380 ACP, or a 9 mak.
     
  9. DeltaF

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    All 3 sound like decent options.

    Find a way to shoot all 3 and pick the one that fits your hand the best and gives you the closest shot group/fastest time between sighted pairs.

    Some things to think about in your future concealed carry purchases:

    Carry ammo that meets the FBI Penetration Standards.

    Stay away from anything smaller than a 38spl when picking a self defense platform.

    When buying a weapon for concealed carry, the less processes involved with firing and reloading the better. You should be able to pull your weapon out of its holster and begin firing in as few steps as possible. Obviously this has to be balanced with actually being able to conceal the weapon in a safe and secure manner.

    This is personal, others will disagree: I don't conceal carry any weapons with external safeties, and I try to use either a pocket holster or inside the belt holster whenever practical. I want to minimize the use of fine motor skills wherever possible. I am the safety. When I pull the trigger I want it to go bang.

    Also personal: I do not conceal carry revolvers and I almost always carry 2 extra magazines. I train on plate courses and in shoot houses with semi and revolver shooters. Rarely is 6 rounds enough. We are always waiting for the revolver shooters to catch up to the rest of the group while they fumble with their speed loaders or drop rounds into their cylinders 1 at a time. Sometimes in the shoot house running out at 6 means they get shot, or I get shot, or both. Obviously lots of people will disagree with this. But it's my experience and its something that happens on an ongoing basis across multiple age groups and experience brackets.
     
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  10. genesaika

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    I agree got try out different guns and calibers. Personally I'm going with a full size Beretta px4 in .40s&w, the cost difference between 9 and 40 here is $3-5 with capacity only going down a little.
     
  11. mahall

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    Consider availability and cost before you fall in love with a 40!! Just saying!!
     
  12. genesaika

    genesaika New Member

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    I have 4 or 5 local places that have it now and have had it during this whole shortage for $3-5 more then 9mm.
     
  13. mahall

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    Cool you can't find 40 in my area!! Shoot well, I'm just a 9mm nut! Pay me no mind!!
     
  14. string1946

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    I would go with the S&W Shield or something else in 9mm. The 9x18 is less powerful and about equal to the .380 plus you would have a much larger selection of ammo to pick from. Plus with a S&W, Glock etc. you have a warranty in case there are issues. With the Mak your on you own.
     
  15. Rick1967

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    I would consider one thing...ammo availability. For my carry gun I must be able to go to any big box store to get ammo. Yes, I have a Cabelas and a Sportsmans warehouse where I live. But I want to shoot my carry gun a lot. 9x18 is not sold everywhere. If we were talking a gun to shoot once in a while that would be different. But a dedicated carry gun should be shot often. .380, 9mm, 38 special, .357 mag, 40 S&W , 44 special, 44 magand 45 ACP are all available at Walmart under normal conditions. 9x18 is not.
     
  16. mahall

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    The exact reason I stay with 9mm!! Availability and high capacity mags!! Shoot the G26, sweet shooter and you can buy up to 33 round mags for it!! I even think there is 150 mag drum available for it!! Glocks interchangeable mags in 9mm makes it unique!!
     
  17. Nebraska12

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    Similarly, my EDC is an XD9sc. Several mag sizes are available for it as well. Perhaps, not the 150 mag drum. But, IMO, I don't see that as a viable option for....well, anything really. But, to each their own.

    I digress.

    Standard magazines for the XD9sc are 13 rds and 16 rds with a mag spacer. If price is a concern, they can be found at sub $400 prices.

    Glock, XD, S&W...the argument as to what is 'best' will out live any of us. Find what works for you...you'll be fine with any of them. All are solid options.

    As far as calibers go - 9mm, .38spc., .380 with modern ammo are the smallest I prefer. But, with .380, I think you pay too much for what you get. In my neck of the woods, it's more expensive than the other two options.
     
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  18. Nebraska12

    Nebraska12 New Member

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    Per the previous post - here's my current set up:

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  19. mahall

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    I agree!! Smith, Glock, or Ruger you really can't go wrong!!
     
  20. DeltaF

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    I missed the makarov being 9x18 i guess thats what comes of posting after midnight. I agree with the above posts. Stay away from 9x18. A gun without bullets becomes an expensive paperweight real fast.