new black rifle

Discussion in 'Auto & Semi-Auto Discussion' started by potentialglock, Jan 2, 2013.

  1. potentialglock

    potentialglock New Member

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    Put a saiga 5.45x39 on layaway today. Comes with one 30 round mag. I got so excited about the price that other than checking the function of the gun I didn't even think to ask more about it. I know that similar guns chambered in the same caliber go for 800-900$
     

  2. Jstrong

    Jstrong New Member

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    Yes I'd say so if its already converted,I spent more than that converting my x39 saiga
     
  3. potentialglock

    potentialglock New Member

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    I'm jc the conversion means what exactly?
     
  4. Jstrong

    Jstrong New Member

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    Saigas are imported in a sporting format with out a pistol grip,the trigger and FCG are also in non traditional locations for a AK variant rifle.

    If it has a pistol grip and looks like an AK then its been converted,and if it hasn't then using a 30 round magazine is in violation of 922(r). Post a picture and I'll tell you for sure
     
  5. potentialglock

    potentialglock New Member

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    Wait....no pistol grip means a 30 round mag is illegal??
     
  6. Jstrong

    Jstrong New Member

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    For a foriegn saiga rifle,it must be imported in compliance with 922r. You can't attach a pistol grip or use high capacity magazines or have any features of a "assault rifle". You can convert it to be able to legally use these type of items such as high-cap mags,pistol grips,bayonet lugs,flash-hiders by putting 4 (four) U.S. made parts in it (as far as AK type weapons go,other rifle platforms require different amount of U.S. made parts based on total number of parts). Most people achieve the four U.S made parts by replacing the fire control group with a American made one which counts as three parts (trigger,hammer,and sear) and then attaching a American made stock or fore-end.

    The whole premise this law is that a so called "assault rifle" that's made with no American parts is somehow more evil or dangerous than one with American parts in it.

    Yea... I know its goofy. But that our politicians for you.

    So in short,no you can't use anything above ten round magazines in a unconverted saiga rifle legally.
     
  7. potentialglock

    potentialglock New Member

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    If the gun shop is selling it with a 30 rd mag wouldn't it have to already be converted?
     
  8. potentialglock

    potentialglock New Member

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    Has anybody else ever seen a gun for the first time and heard it say "I am your gun". "I am going to go home with you." Then you bought it without a second thought?
     
  9. potentialglock

    potentialglock New Member

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    Where can I find 5.45x39 ammo? Every online store is out of stock
     
  10. Jstrong

    Jstrong New Member

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    Never seen a saiga converted without the use of a pistol grip and conventional stock,I think the gun shop was probably just Ignorant about the import laws regarding saigas.

    Post pictures!
     
  11. Jstrong

    Jstrong New Member

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    Just keep an eye out online,that's the only place to find it,not sure If the prices on 5.45 had gone up at all but it used to be comically cheap
     
  12. lbwar15

    lbwar15 New Member

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    Yep. My XD45 did that to me. And the mossberg 702 I just bought 3 weeks ago.
     
  13. potentialglock

    potentialglock New Member

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    Nice.....now I need to find boxes of ammo for it
     
  14. marc29th

    marc29th New Member

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    Nice pick up! Just keep checking out the web and sooner or later 5.45x39 will be back in stock. Sportsman's guide has a due date of Feb 25 for Wolf.
     
  15. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Congratulations on a great caliber. I have a SAR-2 in 5,45x39 and it's a great caliber.

    It was my impression that you can use a 30 round magazine in an uconverted gun.

    You can't put a pistol grip, bayonet lug, etc on it without the 922r compliance. But I believe any magazine is okay.

    Ammo will be back in stock in a few months. I buy mine in 1080 round spam cans from

    www.aimsurplus.com
     
  16. marc29th

    marc29th New Member

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    I'm also a fan of the 5.45x39.

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    My Century M74.
     
  17. potentialglock

    potentialglock New Member

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    Picking up my new rifle today!! Pics to come later
     
  18. potentialglock

    potentialglock New Member

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    Well I lied. My Virginia drivers license a d chl don't prove I'm an American citizen and as such cannot purchase an "assault weapon" so I have to go back tomorrow with my passport, birth certificate or voters registration card.
     
  19. Popeye77

    Popeye77 New Member

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    Keep your chin up knowing an illegal alien can now get a drivers license.