Neighbor sees 60 year old attacked and grabs his gun instead of his phone!

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  1. JYD

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    Neighbor sees 60 year old attacked and grabs his gun instead of his phone!

    http://junkyarddog911.blogspot.com/2014/07/neighbor-grabs-gun-and-not-phone-when.html
     
  2. Shoobee

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  3. manta

    manta Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I would have rang the police and intervened if I had to, but not with a firearm unless they were armed. He could end up getting in trouble himself it could have being a domestic situation.
     
  4. Rick1967

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    Three people beating up a senior citizen is a domestic situation? Really?
     
  5. rjd3282

    rjd3282 New Member

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    Because nobody has ever been beaten to death. :rolleyes:
     
  6. manta

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    Families would never get into a fight and start throwing punches. ? Before you know it they could be accusing you of murder. My point be careful what you get involved in it could come back to bite you. Just my opinion , if you would do the same in a similar situation go for it. I thought that in some states you had to be in fear for your life before you used lethal force am I wrong. ?
     
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  7. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    I can not speak for all 50 states. But I do know about half of them have self defense and "Defense of Another" laws. And the police officer in the article is quoted as saying that if everything is as it appears there would be no charges filed.
     
  8. manta

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    Would it not be responsible to point that in some states you could end up in trouble for taking that type of action. As well as the usual he deserves a medal comments.

    Them trying to beat you to death, and someone else could be seen differently by the law. As I said anyone that would take the same action , go for it.

    There are also civil lawsuits that could cost a lot of money win or lose.
     
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  9. rjd3282

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    On the other hand you could stand back and do nothing until the victim is killed, because you feared you might get in trouble. Good luck looking at yourself in the mirror every morning.
     
  10. manta

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    If you read my post again I did not stand back and do nothing did I . ?
     
  11. robocop10mm

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    3 on 1 a domestic situation? Even if it was a domestic situation, there is no excuse to beat up a 60 year old.
     
  12. indy36

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    Manta, I get what you are saying. That would be my advice as well. Be extremely careful shooting people. It's going to cost you a lot of money. If I pull my gun it's a 'last resort' situation and somebody is going to die. There won't be any brandishing or warning shots for prosecutors to interpret. That spells legal trouble. I'll look in the mirror just fine.


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  13. manta

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    I agree, I am just saying make sure shooting is a last resort or you could end up in trouble.
     
  14. robocop10mm

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    In most US States the laws have been tweaked to protect victim's of domestic violence. It is a HUGE issue.

    It really does not matter who is beating a person, it matters that the shooter believed the beating victim would WANT help. "Defense of a third person"
     
  15. manta

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    An interesting read that could apply in a similar situation. I don't think its as black and white as some think. For example if the 60 year old started the fight and you shot one of the individuals you could end up in jail.

     
  16. limbkiller

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    In Ky. you wouldn't even go to jail. If I see that I would do the same thing. Not worried about ME at THIS point only saving a life. Manta you would actually think about yourself?
     
  17. manta

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    Read my earlier post.

     
  18. Overkill0084

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    After you stop the violent felony in progress, there is plenty of time to call the police. It's not as though calling them first would have helped.
    Which is a more effective way forward?:

    Option 1
    "Stop, I'm calling the police!"
    "911, what's your emergency..."
    "Dang, beat him faster, we're in a hurry, the cops are coming."

    Option 2:
    "Stop or I'll shoot!"
    "Bang, bang."
    "911, what's your emergency..."


    He did. Told them to stop beating the guy. They failed to comprehend that he had both the means and the will to make them stop.
     
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  19. robocop10mm

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    It really does not matter a hill of beans WHO started the "fight". Once it becomes a 3 on 1 beat down, it is ASSAULT, PERIOD. One can legally defend one's self, but to turn the tables and beat the one who started the "fight" takes it to a new realm.
     
  20. manta

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    Are you sure about that. If you start a fight and they are getting the better of and, you use a firearm to stop them from what I can read you could be in trouble.

     
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